[tinwhiskers] Re: Exemption on high temperature lead solder

  • From: "Parnagian, Ed" <ed.parnagian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:25:47 +0200

Really good information, Mike!

This could really be another tip on the RoHS iceberg.  I believe that high 
lead-content solders have been around for quite a few years, but this could be 
that there is a "new" succeptibility for high lead solders associated with the 
higher processing temperatures associated with SAC305 assembly processes?

This looks like something that should be hitting the CPUs, as well.  The really 
sad thing about this is that the general public is oblivious to the uncertain 
product quality that they are laying down their money for.  And if anyone in 
industry tries to wake them, that person's employer will get a blackeye, the we 
all know what that will result in for the employee.

Very troubling,
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Finczak
Sent: 2008 Aug 26 10:53 AM
To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Exemption on high temperature lead solder

Niki, Bert and Ed,

        Take a look at this article posted on TomsHardware regarding
        Nvidia GPU failures. The failures may have been caused by
        the use of High Lead solder.

        http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GPU-failure,6248.html


Regards,
       Mike Finczak
       CopperCAD Design
       www.CopperCAD.com
       905-488-8958


-----Original Message-----
From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Parnagian, Ed
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:04 AM
To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Exemption on high temperature lead solder

Hi, Bert!

Yes, it seems inconsistent with the stated objectives of RoHS, but it is
a good example of what pushing back with data can achieve.

These high lead-content solders all have very high melting points.  They
are used by device manufacturers to make internal interconnects in
devices that have very high power densities.

Best regards,
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mason, Bert
Sent: 2008 Aug 26 8:32 AM
To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Exemption on high temperature lead solder

Abandon all rationality Ye who enter the world of RoHS and the EU.
Welcome to our world

Best Regards,

Bert Mason
Quality Engineer

Formation Inc.
Building 1
121 Whittendale Dr.
Moorestown, NJ 08057
Phone: 856-380-2956
Fax: 856-234-5242



-----Original Message-----
From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Niki Steenkamp
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:24 AM
To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tinwhiskers] Exemption on high temperature lead solder


Hi,

I have been looking over some of the official RoHS documents and have
seen
that there is an exemption on high temperature lead solder (more than
85%
lead).  Not having done any more research on the subject I was
wondering:
* Why the exemption exists?
* Why not use more than 85% lead to circumvent the pure tin problem?
Maybe
the temperature is unacceptably high?

I also noticed that mercury is limited but not banned in fluorescent
lights.
Just thinking of the millions of fluorescent lights being dumped in
landfills
each year I cannot see how this can be viewed as acceptable while ALL
lead
had to be removed from electronics.  Furthermore, lead in batteries are
exempt.  There is probably more lead in my car battery than in a
thousand PC
motherboards and how many of these batteries end up in landfills each
year?
Just seems strangely warped...

Regards,
Niki




E-mail Disclaimer
http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm




The information contained in this message may be confidential and
legally protected under applicable law. The message is intended solely
for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any use, forwarding, dissemination, or reproduction
of this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are
not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail
and destroy all copies of the original message.





The information contained in this message may be confidential and legally 
protected under applicable law. The message is intended solely for the 
addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified 
that any use, forwarding, dissemination, or reproduction of this message is 
strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, 
please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the 
original message.

Other related posts: