[THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:51:14 -0700
The vDisk cache on the server side is a lot of times faster than the local
device for the same reason people notice that OS boots faster via PXE than
local. I try to avoid client-side cache when possible but there are use
cases for it. It does make HA much easier.
Joe
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Subject: [THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
Depends on where you put the vdisk cache. You would need a very large san
for the cache if you want to do it at the data center though. I think you
get better performance if it is on the local workstation
Jim Kenzig
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Huh? Streaming the OS to a Thin Client is a great idea. You don't need a
storage device for PVS to work as everything runs over the network. That is
one of the selling points. Several thin-client manufacture do this today
and when you do a little inspection it's Ardence (pre-Citrix) under the
hood.
Joe
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Subject: [THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
I agree in this case Citrix Provisioning Server may be the way to go because
you can stream an entire OS down to the workstation. There are many schools
currently doing this. However a thin client is not the best choice for PVS
unless it has enough HD storage space for whatever OS you are sending to it.
Jim Kenzig
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Rick Mack <ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Puneet,
I'm the greatest fan of terminal services around and I've done lots of
successful school terminal server rollouts. I've even got our developers to
produce freeware utilities so you can run stuff like AutoCAD multi-user on
terminal services.
But 150 students isn't a lot of students and stuff like Maya, 3D Max etc is
going to need some really hefty compute power (read GPUs) for rendering that
you're not going to get in a shared environment, either terminal services or
VDI. By all means use thin clients and put the compute power back in the
computer room but don't even think about doing this stuff on either a pure
terminals ervices or VDI solution unless you like pain.
Worst case I'd be tempted to go for a mix of VDI and PC blades and since the
apps aren't OpenGL you're going to have to seriously consider using
something like HP's RGS protocol which can deliver 3D applications,
multimedia etc. I'd use HP's T5730 thin clients provided you can get a good
price and you'll have a brilliant 3D application delivery system. The only
gotcha with RGS is that the video resolution and colour depth are limited to
the maximum console video capabilities. That means VMware is out (1180x885)
for VDI and you're left with something like Hyper-V (1600x1200) or maybe
some other Xen-based hypervisor to get decent screen resolution.
Of course if we're talking PC blades it wouldn't be fair not to mention
Panologic and Teradici in particular because their solutions are pretty darn
good for 3D applications (and just about anything else).
Citrix provisioning server has a possible place but if you're using PC
blades there may be less expensive solutions out there.
regards,
Rick
--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Puneet Goel <g.puneet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I have to deply thin client in a school for around 150 students. They
will be working on advanced IT apps like 3D Max, Maya, Autocad,
Photoshop, Oracle, SQL.
can anyone guide me in finalizing server requirements for them.
thanks
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