[THIN] Re: thin Digest V3 #215

  • From: "SteveC" <SteveC@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:45:54 -0400

I just saw it honey.  Good stuff, thank you.  That's a great first step.


If you are still at your desk, can you log in at

  https://webmail.atomic9.net:11982

 and your username is "alexc@xxxxxxxxxxx" 
and your password is "blackcat5stripedcat4"



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:26:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: thin Digest V3 #215

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> thin Digest   Mon, 19 Apr 2004        Volume: 03  Issue: 215
> 
> In This Issue:
>       #1:     From: "Jeff Durbin" <techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: A real tricky one!!!
>       #2:     From: "Nick Smith" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Opteron processors
>       #3:     From: "Ian Aston" <ianaston@xxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] MySQL
>       #4:     From: "Andrew Rogers" <Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote access without software 
requirements
>       #5:     From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and 
Grasp
>       #6:     From: "Rowlandson, John" <John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, 
and Grasp
>       #7:     From: "Thomas, Jeremy" <Jeremy.Thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, 
and Grasp
>       #8:     From: "Monahan, Thomas" <Thomas.Monahan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, 
and Grasp
>       #9:     From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: A real tricky one!!!
>       #10:    From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Metaframe Installation and 
Tuning Tips
>       #11:    From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
>       #12:    From: "Timothy Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
>       #13:    From: "Jay Moock" <jmoock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Software Restriction Policies
>       #14:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #15:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
>       #16:    From: Phil Smith <psmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Flash and Shockwave
>       #17:    From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #18:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #19:    From: "Philip Walley" <philip.walley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] auto recovery after forced logoff
>       #20:    From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #21:    From: "Jeremy Lee" <JLee@xxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #22:    From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] just inherited system that needs 
upgrades   
>       #23:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #24:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #25:    From: "Randy Wood" <dwood1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] puzzle
>       #26:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; 
<jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: just inherited system that needs 
upgrades   
>       #27:    From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: just inherited system that needs 
upgrades   
>       #28:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #29:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; 
<jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #30:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
>       #31:    From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: puzzle
>       #32:    From: "Rusty Yates" <ryates@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Roaming Profile Issue
>       #33:    From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #34:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; 
<jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #35:    From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #36:    From: "King, Jesse" <JKing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #37:    From: "PETERSON, DAVID" <DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #38:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; 
<jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #39:    From: "Columna, Melvin" <Melvin.Columna@xxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
>       #40:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; 
<jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
>       #41:    From: Nick Gage <nickg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
>       #42:    From: "Taylor, George" <gtaylor@xxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
>       #43:    From: "David Teague" <DavidT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
>       #44:    From: "Landin, Mark" <Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Spam:Screwdrivers or something else
>       #45:    From: "PETERSON, DAVID" <DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Spam:Screwdrivers or something else
>       #46:    From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>               Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #1 in digest
> From: "Jeff Durbin" <techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: A real tricky one!!!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:42:08 +1200
> 
> I've used the SDK to get client info in a session if you end up needing
> help
> with that part of it. I could easily give you the client IP within a
> session, but the question really is whether that helps you with the
> Unix
> boxes. If you knew the client IP address in the Citrix session, how
> would
> that help?
> 
> Jeff Durbin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Lyne
> > Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 4:31 p.m.
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] A real tricky one!!!
> > 
> > Does any one know if there is any way of passing the client 
> > ip address details to the citrix session essentially making 
> > the terminal server session appear to be running from the 
> > client IP address.
> >  
> > 
> > The reason why I ask this, is that a large client here has a 
> > number of core HP Unix boxes which print to the client IP 
> > address (This config cant be changed apparently). So to the 
> > HP Unix server, all citrix sessions appear as 1 ip address 
> > (The terminal server ip address), so of course the printing 
> > doesn't work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If there is no 3rd party product out there, I was thinking of 
> > using the Citrix SDK and trying a few API calls to retrieve 
> > the IP address from the citrix client session and figuring 
> > out how to pass it to the proprietary HP Telnet application, 
> > but am hoping I don't have to go down this path.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Tony Lyne
> > 
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> Msg: #2 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Opteron processors
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:58:33 +0100
> From: "Nick Smith" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Does anyone have any experience, good/bad/indifferent yet with running
> TS on hardware using Opteron processors?
> Nick
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #3 in digest
> From: "Ian Aston" <ianaston@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] MySQL
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:37:25 +0100
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Has anybody used MySQL on Redhat 9.0 for a Citrix datastore?
> 
> Ian
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #4 in digest
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:38:25 +0100
> From: "Andrew Rogers" <Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote access without software requirements
> 
> Well unless the time entry program has a web interface, you're going to
> HAV=
> E to use Citrix or suchlike, theres no way round it!
> 
> Andrew
> --o--
> 
> >>> DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx 18/04/04 15:59:17 >>>
> Right now it's e-mail but I can see them asking the same thing for our
> =3D
> time entry program and such. We'll have to see if he likes the 2003 OWA
> =3D
> any better. We definately are going to move to it, just not sure on the
> =3D
> timeframe.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Rogers [mailto:Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 7:30 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote access without software requirements
> 
> 
> Sounds like theyre asking for the ubiquitous "moon on a stick". The =3D
> closest=3D3D
>  thing you could get to it, assuming you have 2k/xp clients only =3D
> (actually,=3D3D
>  im not sure about 2000..) is publishing a .rdp file - xp at any rate
> =3D
> has t=3D3D
> he client already installed
> 
> Or maybe a VPN, which supports the built in Windows VPN stuff? But you
> =3D
> coul=3D3D
> d argue about the speed, possible security repercussions, etc..
> 
> Seeing as even Javas out of the question, i'd just go back with the =3D
> answer,=3D3D
>  "no". Although you could try pushing for funding for Exchange2003? :)
> 
> Is it specifically email he wants access to?
> 
> Andrew
> --o--
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> Msg: #5 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:33:48 -0400
> 
> long time user of citrix, and many WYSE devices, bought a few of the
> 1200le's to test, having some quirky things happen with the 1200's,
> anybody
> using these and what firmware?.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #6 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:39:35 +1000
> From: "Rowlandson, John" <John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Mallesons Stephen Jaques
> www.mallesons.com
> 
> Confidential communication
> 
> 
> 
> we just bought a few, updated the firmware to overcome all sorts of =
> connection issues
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 10:34 PM
> To: Thin Online List (E-mail)
> Subject: [THIN] pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> 
> 
> long time user of citrix, and many WYSE devices, bought a few of the
> 1200le's to test, having some quirky things happen with the 1200's, =
> anybody
> using these and what firmware?.
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> Msg: #7 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:48:43 +0200
> From: "Thomas, Jeremy" <Jeremy.Thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Chris,
> 
> 1200s are designed for use in a LAN environment. If that's what you've
> go=
> t, no problem, but you may need to "tune" Citrix to get them to work
> prop=
> erly.
> 
> If not, you should find you have fun with TimeZones, and you need to
> wait=
>  for Wyse to document and publish the newest revision of the firmware,
> wh=
> ich has an "enhancement" in it to fix timezone issues.
> 
> If you do have problems, call Wyse tech support. They can be quite
> helpfu=
> ll if they realise that there are a few sales dependant on this.
> 
> Do use an FTP server to distribute the configs for the Wyse devices.
> IIRC=
> , the Wyse management tool (rapport) does not support these Java based
> cl=
> ient devices.
> 
> BTW, I seem to have assumed that you have a Win2003/XPeFR3 environment
> li=
> ke we have. It could be relevant, depending on what issues you're
> seeing.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Jez
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kornblum, Chris [mailto:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: maandag 19 april 2004 14:34
> To: Thin Online List (E-mail)
> Subject: [THIN] pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> 
> 
> long time user of citrix, and many WYSE devices, bought a few of the
> 1200le's to test, having some quirky things happen with the 1200's,
> anybo=
> dy
> using these and what firmware?.
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> Msg: #8 in digest
> From: "Monahan, Thomas" <Thomas.Monahan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:50:05 +0100
> 
> What sort of quirky things? 4.3.94i is the latest public release of
> firmware
> I believe.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Kornblum, Chris [SMTP:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent:       19 April 2004 13:34
> > To: Thin Online List (E-mail)
> > Subject:    [THIN] pls help-Wyse 1200le's, meditech, and Grasp
> > 
> > long time user of citrix, and many WYSE devices, bought a few of the
> > 1200le's to test, having some quirky things happen with the 1200's,
> > anybody
> > using these and what firmware?.
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> Msg: #9 in digest
> From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: A real tricky one!!!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:58:50 -0500
> 
> Tony this is not that uncommon. For a long time medical EMR apps were
> the
> same way. BUT the problem is really not GETTING the Ip address (that is
> simple) the problem is how the host sees the connections. Even if you
> get
> the IP there is nothing to do with it. The TCP stack is loaded and
> coming
> out the server nic and right now Terminal Server does not have a way to
> virtualized that stack to send unique IPs for clients. (This is
> something we
> asked for in our dream list while at Redmond, but since these apps are
> becoming less frequent I doubt it will get a lot of attention)
> 
> Best bet is to change the backend application to use the %clientname%
> variable or something else all together. 
> 
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Jeff Durbin
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:42 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: A real tricky one!!!
> 
> I've used the SDK to get client info in a session if you end up needing
> help
> with that part of it. I could easily give you the client IP within a
> session, but the question really is whether that helps you with the
> Unix
> boxes. If you knew the client IP address in the Citrix session, how
> would
> that help?
> 
> Jeff Durbin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Lyne
> > Sent: Monday, 19 April 2004 4:31 p.m.
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] A real tricky one!!!
> > 
> > Does any one know if there is any way of passing the client 
> > ip address details to the citrix session essentially making 
> > the terminal server session appear to be running from the 
> > client IP address.
> >  
> > 
> > The reason why I ask this, is that a large client here has a 
> > number of core HP Unix boxes which print to the client IP 
> > address (This config cant be changed apparently). So to the 
> > HP Unix server, all citrix sessions appear as 1 ip address 
> > (The terminal server ip address), so of course the printing 
> > doesn't work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If there is no 3rd party product out there, I was thinking of 
> > using the Citrix SDK and trying a few API calls to retrieve 
> > the IP address from the citrix client session and figuring 
> > out how to pass it to the proprietary HP Telnet application, 
> > but am hoping I don't have to go down this path.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Tony Lyne
> > 
> > Senior Systems Engineer 
> > 
> > Computerland Central 
> > 
> > P O Box 1470 
> > 
> > PALMERSTON NORTH
> > 
> > Telephone (+64) 06 3537300
> > 
> > Facsimile (+64) 06 3566800
> > 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #10 in digest
> From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Metaframe Installation and Tuning Tips
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:00:28 -0500
> 
> Yeah these are a Replay of some of the existing ones with some new
> ones. I
> never did get a chance to finalize these (had some help but they all
> seemed
> to fade out) Anyway. There are some new ones, and with 2003 less and
> less
> needs to be done 
> 
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
>  
> RapidApp, Chicago
> Mobile 815 325-7618
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> e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Rob Slayden
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:11 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Metaframe Installation and Tuning Tips
> 
> There is a newer tips spreadsheet on Ron Oglesby's website that is a
> compilation from multiple sources. It is 2003OSTips.xls. Address below:
> 
> http://ron.oglesby.com/downloads.html
> 
> Make sure to read the caveat though!!
> 
> Rob
> 24 Hour Fitness
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Watts [mailto:greg.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 7:33 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Citrix Metaframe Installation and Tuning Tips
> 
> Is the Citrix Metaframe Installation and Tuning tips document
> maintained by
> Rick Dehlinger dated 5/15/2001 the latest one available?
>  
> 
> Just wondering before I download it!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> 
>  
> 
> Greg Watts
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> Msg: #11 in digest
> From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:01:09 -0500
> 
> No but I want to....  I also want to try a 64bit running 2k3. B
> 
> Ron Oglesby
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Nick Smith
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:59 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Opteron processors
> 
> Does anyone have any experience, good/bad/indifferent yet with running
> TS on hardware using Opteron processors?
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> Msg: #12 in digest
> From: "Timothy Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:25:29 -0400
> 
> I've been trying to get one into my lab for months, but to no avail
> (yet).
> AMD just doesn't seem to have the relationships with the hardware
> vendors to
> make these available.  It might be different if you are promising to
> buy.
> It's really too bad because it just hurts their cause to not have folks
> talking about how good it is.
> 
> Tim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Nick Smith
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:59 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Opteron processors
> 
> Does anyone have any experience, good/bad/indifferent yet with running
> TS on
> hardware using Opteron processors?
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> Msg: #13 in digest
> From: "Jay Moock" <jmoock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Software Restriction Policies
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:09:11 -0400
> 
> We are in the process of setting up some Win2k3 Metaframe servers in a
> NT
> 4.0 domain.  In order to simplify the setup of these servers, I am
> wondering
> if there is any way that the SRP settings (specifically, the Additional
> Rules) can be copied from on server to another?  The SRP settings do
> not
> appear to be captured when I export the security settings policy, and
> exporting the rule list does me no good because there is no mechanism
> (that
> I can see) to import it.  I tried copying registry.pol from another
> server,
> but I got some strange results and I'm not sure I would be comfortable
> doing
> that on production servers anyway.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jay Moock
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #14 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:16:57 -0500
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k
> will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #15 in digest
> From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:27:49 -0700
> 
> Vmotion is the "tool" or product you would need a SAN for.  It's used
> to
> move a VM from one ESX server to another while the VM is still online. 
> With
> GSX you need to provide the Host OS and the tweaks necessary so the
> host
> doesn't consume all of the systems resources.  ESX is a customized
> version
> of Red Hat 7.2 that Vmware used as the host OS.  It's geared for the
> true
> datacenter enterprise-class services (read as DL380-G3 and above;
> preferable
> an ML-class server).  You can still run ESX on a blade server, but it's
> recommended on a much larger system.  You could use the BL20 series and
> have
> them attached to a SAN for faster disk I/O.
> 
> Feel free to email me off list if you want to further discuss this.
> 
> Chris 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:21 PM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > 
> > Chris, 
> > 
> > Thanks for your replies here.  We do actually have a SAN in 
> > place so your last statement sounds good.  What is the 
> > difference between VMWARE ESX and GSX?  You said that we 
> > would need a SAN to fully utilize all the advantages of ESX, 
> > so I am assuming with ESX we are talking about actual VMWARE 
> > hardware and that would be significantly more expensive?  Am 
> > I mistaken?
> > What are the differences between ESX and GSX and why would we 
> > benefit more from ESX based on what you know about my 
> > environment already?  
> > 
> > TY
> > 
> > /jL
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 5:30 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > 
> > 
> > Comments inline.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
> > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:11 PM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > > 
> > > Well, I work for a hospital so:
> > > 
> > > 100% uptime is a must.  Even our reboot schedule is set up so
> > > that Zero downtime is needed.
> > > Our core applications are mainly the Office 2k suite, Outlook 
> > > XP, and our main HIS app (meditech magic).
> > > We have about 30 users per each of the seven boxes right now. 
> > >  I would say that all in all our servers at not near max 
> > utilization.
> > > Currently we do not really have any set DR requirements, it 
> > > is just "get that server up and get it up fast..."
> > 
> > Eww!  Meditech.
> > 
> > > 
> > > However we are looking at HP's rapid deployment pack for
> > > imaging/restoring our Citrix boxes, as it supposedly plays 
> > > nice with remapped drives on MF boxes whereas some of the 
> > > other big boys like Ghost and Imagecast do not necessarily. 
> > 
> > I have had success with Ghost and V2i.  HP's RD is a cool utility.
> >  
> > > 
> > > That is another thing, we were looking at HP's Blades, and
> > > they (HP) kept using the imaging/restore/DR capabilities of 
> > > their Blades and their RDP (rapid deployment kit) as a main 
> > > selling point for buying Blades, and the truth is that you 
> > > can run that utility just as effectively with DL360's as with 
> > > Blades!  So when we walked out of there, in our minds all we 
> > > were left with as an advantage to Blades with Citrix, was 
> > > less rack space, and that is not reason enough for me to 
> > > convert my entire farm from DL360's to Blades...
> > 
> > If you are going to get the BL series from HP, then the only 
> > way to install
> > the OS on their blades.
> > 
> > > 
> > > I just think where I have a set amount of money that I can
> > > spend, either on Blades or on VMWare, I would think there 
> > > would be more advantage to going the VMWare route.  I think 
> > > this because our main concern is with DR and rolling out new 
> > > apps, patches, and hotfixes in the middle of the day without 
> > > downtime.  If you think about it, with hardware becoming less 
> > > and less expensive, the whole idea behind VMWare goes a long way.
> > 
> > Yes it does.  Then, I would probably go the ESX route with 
> > VirtualCenter.
> > But, do keep in mind that if you want to fully utilize all of 
> > the features
> > (mainly Vmotion), you will need a SAN in place where your ESX 
> > server will be
> > connected to.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:47 PM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You would need to provide more info on the install.  What is
> > > the average
> > > utilization of your servers?  What apps do you run?  How many 
> > > users log into
> > > your servers?  Average?  Max?  What is your current DR 
> > > requirements?  What
> > > is your time to recovery SLA?  All of this should dictate 
> > > which route you
> > > go.
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > > On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:36 PM
> > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > > > 
> > > > Because I can not buy both.  It is either VMWare or 
> > Blades. Money is 
> > > > tight.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Shonk, Joe - Perot [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:48 AM
> > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: blades versus VMWARE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So why not run VMWare on blades?
> > > > 
> > > > Joe
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Luchette, Jon [mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 8:20 AM
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] blades versus VMWARE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Just wanted to get a discussion going on a decision that 
> > I am trying 
> > > > to tackle in terms of MF...  Right now our environment looks
> > > > like this: seven
> > > > MF servers running MF XP FR3 on Windows 2k Server sp4, 2 
> > > > NFuse servers also
> > > > with CSG installed on both running Win2k Advanced Server 
> > > sp4, and all
> > > > servers are Compaq DL 360's (some G1, some G2)  with dual
> > > > 1ghz processors
> > > > and 2gb RAM, we have a SAN now (HP EVA 5000) but are not 
> > > > currently housing
> > > > any MF data on it. 
> > > >  
> > > > Ideally we would be able to install MF on some new blade servers,
> > > > house the data on the SAN, and utilize VMWARE as well.  
> > That is not
> > > > going to happen
> > > > here, we just don't have the money for it.  However, we may 
> > > > have the money
> > > > for either one OR the other.  All things considered in 
> > > terms of MF in
> > > > particular, which one would you rather have in your data
> > > > center and why?  I
> > > > know they do different things, but when you match those 
> > > > things up against
> > > > one another, which one has more advantages? 
> > > >  
> > > > /jL
> > > >  
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> 
> Msg: #16 in digest
> From: Phil Smith <psmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Flash and Shockwave
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:22:13 -0400
> 
> Has anyone else been able to get flash and/or shockwave to install on
> their
> citrix servers?
> 
> The marketing company that designed our new site made it with flash. 
> This
> now requires me to add flash to our citrix server so our people can see
> our
> own website.  Problem is that I can only seem to get the ActiveX
> installer
> for the players and it does not seem to work on my Citrix environment.
> 
> Thanks
> Phil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #17 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:36:26 -0400
> 
> seems similar to our setup, any thoughts to rebooting WINS and/or DNS
> server, could it be device orientated, what kind of devices are you
> using?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k
> will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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> 
> Msg: #18 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:34:15 -0500
> 
> Outlook works fine on local stations.  It's an intermittent Citrix
> issue.
> I'm thinking a software or config problem not hardware.  Everything
> else on
> the server is working fine.
> 
> Thanks.
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kornblum, Chris [mailto:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> seems similar to our setup, any thoughts to rebooting WINS and/or DNS
> server, could it be device orientated, what kind of devices are you
> using?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k
> will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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> 
> Msg: #19 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] auto recovery after forced logoff
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:39:17 -0500
> From: "Philip Walley" <philip.walley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Is there a way, after forcing the logoff of an idle session, to allow
> users to auto-recover when they relaunch word or excel? would it be
> best
> to set this to disconnect instead of forcing a logoff? what practices
> do
> you guys follow?
>  
>  
> Philip Walley 
> Sr. Network Engineer 
> Consultrix Technologies 
> Memphis, TN.
>  
> Consultrix Help Desk: (601) 956-8909
> Memphis Office: (901) 383-1300 
> Memphis Fax: (901) 383-1375
>  
>  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #20 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:48:46 -0400
> 
> we've got 10 servers in our farm, we've found in the past issues with
> our
> Cisco switch dealing with individual servers and their ports, recycle
> the
> port on that switch worked before, What feature release and service
> packs?.
> are you pub apps or desktops? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:34 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Outlook works fine on local stations.  It's an intermittent Citrix
> issue.
> I'm thinking a software or config problem not hardware.  Everything
> else on
> the server is working fine.
> 
> Thanks.
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kornblum, Chris [mailto:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> seems similar to our setup, any thoughts to rebooting WINS and/or DNS
> server, could it be device orientated, what kind of devices are you
> using?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k
> will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #21 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:46:51 -0500
> From: "Jeremy Lee" <JLee@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work
> fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #22 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] just inherited system that needs upgrades   
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:05:36 -0400
> 
> currently running FR2 Service Pack 2 on a 10 server farm NT 4.0 domain,
> Microsoft products-  outlook word etc, meditech, Grasp, any thoughts as
> to
> what to expect, and what order should the  upgrades be done?. 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #23 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:05:38 -0500
> 
> We have 3Com Switches.  I will try this later.  NT 4.0 Term Serv MF
> 1.8.  We
> are just serving desktops.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kornblum, Chris [mailto:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:49 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> we've got 10 servers in our farm, we've found in the past issues with
> our
> Cisco switch dealing with individual servers and their ports, recycle
> the
> port on that switch worked before, What feature release and service
> packs?.
> are you pub apps or desktops? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:34 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Outlook works fine on local stations.  It's an intermittent Citrix
> issue.
> I'm thinking a software or config problem not hardware.  Everything
> else on
> the server is working fine.
> 
> Thanks.
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kornblum, Chris [mailto:ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> seems similar to our setup, any thoughts to rebooting WINS and/or DNS
> server, could it be device orientated, what kind of devices are you
> using?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 11:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k
> will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #24 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:06:25 -0500
> 
> We don't have that option in our Outlook 2000.  The odd thing is we've
> never
> had an issue with this before.  Now sometimes users can open Outlook
> and
> other times it will just hang.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Lee [mailto:JLee@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work
> fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> ********************************************************
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #25 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] puzzle
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:07:14 -0500
> From: "Randy Wood" <dwood1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I have two separate forests one for the domain use, and one for vpn
> access =
> to a 2000 terminal server. there is no trust established between the
> two. W=
> hen running the mmc in the vpn forest, only the vpn forest shows up.
> When a=
>  certain user runs a link to an mmc created, they can connect to DC's
> in th=
> e domain, even if there is not a trust established. How the heck is
> that oc=
> curring? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.=20
> 
> David R. Wood (Randy)
> Systems Engineer
> Southwest Bank of Texas
> 713.232.6520
> 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #26 in digest
> From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: just inherited system that needs upgrades   
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:14:45 -0400
> 
> Id go OS fixes first, then programs ( for office se
> http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate/default.aspx?CTT=98) and then
> Citrix updates.
> See
> http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/terminalserver/downloads/default.asp
> for NT 4.0 Microsoft Terminal Server patches
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:06 PM
> To: Thin Online List (E-mail)
> Subject: [THIN] just inherited system that needs upgrades
> 
> 
> currently running FR2 Service Pack 2 on a 10 server farm NT 4.0 domain,
> Microsoft products-  outlook word etc, meditech, Grasp, any thoughts as
> to
> what to expect, and what order should the  upgrades be done?.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #27 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: just inherited system that needs upgrades   
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:53:09 -0400
> 
> thx, I'm curious to see how I make out, again ck
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 12:15 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: just inherited system that needs upgrades 
> 
> 
> Id go OS fixes first, then programs ( for office se
> http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate/default.aspx?CTT=98) and then
> Citrix updates.
> See
> http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/terminalserver/downloads/default.asp
> for NT 4.0 Microsoft Terminal Server patches
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:06 PM
> To: Thin Online List (E-mail)
> Subject: [THIN] just inherited system that needs upgrades
> 
> 
> currently running FR2 Service Pack 2 on a 10 server farm NT 4.0 domain,
> Microsoft products-  outlook word etc, meditech, Grasp, any thoughts as
> to
> what to expect, and what order should the  upgrades be done?.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #28 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:49:46 -0500
> 
> One of our users installed "Smiley Central" and I think it's a/the
> cause of
> the problem.  "Smiley Central" bar now shows up when you try and send
> an
> email.  If anyone has solved any issues with this please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We don't have that option in our Outlook 2000.  The odd thing is we've
> never
> had an issue with this before.  Now sometimes users can open Outlook
> and
> other times it will just hang.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Lee [mailto:JLee@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We are using NT 4.0 Term Serv SP6a with MF 1.8  and Outlook/Office 2000
> Professional.  Everything has worked fine for years.  All of a Outlook
> 2k will hang when you try and open it.  All other apps seem to work
> fine.
> 
> I did a reboot and now a few accounts can use Outlook but others still
> hang.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> ********************************************************
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> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=20
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #29 in digest
> From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:01:56 -0400
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> One of our users installed "Smiley Central" and I think it's a/the
> cause of
> the problem.  "Smiley Central" bar now shows up when you try and send
> an
> email.  If anyone has solved any issues with this please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We don't have that option in our Outlook 2000.  The odd thing is we've
> never
> had an issue with this before.  Now sometimes users can open Outlook
> and
> other times it will just hang.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Lee [mailto:JLee@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #30 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:04:57 -0500
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy the
> professional?
> MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> One of our users installed "Smiley Central" and I think it's a/the
> cause of
> the problem.  "Smiley Central" bar now shows up when you try and send
> an
> email.  If anyone has solved any issues with this please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We don't have that option in our Outlook 2000.  The odd thing is we've
> never
> had an issue with this before.  Now sometimes users can open Outlook
> and
> other times it will just hang.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Lee [mailto:JLee@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
> ********************************************************
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> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free. 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #31 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: puzzle
> From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:05:10 -0700
> 
> 
> Pass-through?  Or maybe has has an account with the same password on
> both
> sides.
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                        
>                                                               
>                       "Randy Wood"                                     
>                                                               
>                       <dwood1@swbanktx.        To:       "Thin
> (E-mail)" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>                                         
>                       com>                     cc:                     
>                                                               
>                       Sent by:                 Subject:  [THIN] puzzle 
>                                                               
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>                                                                        
>                                                               
>                       04/19/2004 09:07                                 
>                                                               
>                       AM                                               
>                                                               
>                       Please respond to                                
>                                                               
>                       thin                                             
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>                                                               
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have two separate forests one for the domain use, and one for vpn
> access
> =
> to a 2000 terminal server. there is no trust established between the
> two.
> W=
> When a=
> DC's in th=
> heck is that oc=
> 
> David R. Wood (Randy)
> Systems Engineer
> Southwest Bank of Texas
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> 
> Msg: #32 in digest
> From: "Rusty Yates" <ryates@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Roaming Profile Issue
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:14:54 -0500
> 
> I'm sure someone has ran into this issue before and can help me!
>  
> We are running into a issue with Outlook 2003 and the .pst file that is
> stored in the C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook folder.  We currently have
> TS
> roaming profiles, TS Home directories, and are redirecting Application
> Data.
> The local Settings folder is not being saved in the roaming profiles. 
> I've
> check the exclusion in the GPO and in the registry.  Is there a way to
> get
> Local Setting to save in the roaming profiles?   This wouldn't be an
> issue
> except for the .pst is saved under that folder and when the user logs
> off
> and then back on it looks for the .pst file and it can't find it.  
>  
> Please help!
>  
> Thanks, Rusty
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #33 in digest
> From: "Kornblum, Chris" <ckornblum@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:54:29 -0400
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and
> Destroy
> and Lavasoft.de Adaware together "? thx  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 1:05 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy the
> professional?
> MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> One of our users installed "Smiley Central" and I think it's a/the
> cause of
> the problem.  "Smiley Central" bar now shows up when you try and send
> an
> email.  If anyone has solved any issues with this please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> We don't have that option in our Outlook 2000.  The odd thing is we've
> never
> had an issue with this before.  Now sometimes users can open Outlook
> and
> other times it will just hang.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Lee [mailto:JLee@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Do you have messenger uninstalled on the Citrix servers but enabled to
> use with outlook?
> 
> Tools - Options - Other tab - Enable Instant Messaging in MS Outlook
> (checked)
> 
> If it is checked and Messenger is uninstalled it will hang for a while
> at startup.  Just something to look at.
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> 
> Msg: #34 in digest
> From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:06:33 -0400
> 
> Lavasoft.de Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de and the free Spybot Search
> and
> Destroy at http://www.tucows.com/preview/310138.html
> are two spyware and adware removal tools.  What one doesn't catch the
> other
> does.  You will be AMAZED after running these programs how many
> things they find on your system and clean up.  Spybot allows you to
> "immunize" your system thereby preventing the infections from happening
> again.
> Adaware has ad blocking features in the purchased version. The free
> version
> does not have that feature.  You need both of these because they catch
> and
> fix different things.  Be sure and do the update for pattern files
> after you
> install each of these products.  You also might not want to run them
> with
> users on the system.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and
> Destroy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 1:05 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy the
> professional?
> MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #35 in digest
> From: Matt Maher <mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:16:22 -0500
> 
> Do you have any advice on the install?
> 
> After SpyBot is installed does it take a while to login?
> 
> Thanks,
> MM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> 
> 
> Lavasoft.de Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de and the free Spybot Search
> and
> Destroy at http://www.tucows.com/preview/310138.html
> are two spyware and adware removal tools.  What one doesn't catch the
> other
> does.  You will be AMAZED after running these programs how many
> things they find on your system and clean up.  Spybot allows you to
> "immunize" your system thereby preventing the infections from happening
> again.
> Adaware has ad blocking features in the purchased version. The free
> version
> does not have that feature.  You need both of these because they catch
> and
> fix different things.  Be sure and do the update for pattern files
> after you
> install each of these products.  You also might not want to run them
> with
> users on the system.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and
> Destroy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 1:05 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy the
> professional?
> MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
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> 
> Msg: #36 in digest
> From: "King, Jesse" <JKing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:23:56 -0400
> 
> I haven't really followed much on these types of programs, but I
> thought
> someone mentioned a bit ago that spybot itself actually installs some
> sort
> of spyware? True or not?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> 
> 
> Do you have any advice on the install?
> 
> After SpyBot is installed does it take a while to login?
> 
> Thanks,
> MM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> 
> 
> Lavasoft.de Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de and the free Spybot Search
> and
> Destroy at http://www.tucows.com/preview/310138.html
> are two spyware and adware removal tools.  What one doesn't catch the
> other
> does.  You will be AMAZED after running these programs how many things
> they
> find on your system and clean up.  Spybot allows you to "immunize" your
> system thereby preventing the infections from happening again. Adaware
> has
> ad blocking features in the purchased version. The free version does
> not
> have that feature.  You need both of these because they catch and fix
> different things.  Be sure and do the update for pattern files after
> you
> install each of these products.  You also might not want to run them
> with
> users on the system. JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and
> Destroy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 1:05 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy the
> professional? MM -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> ever
> amen will fix you right up. JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #37 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:23:04 -0400
> From: "PETERSON, DAVID" <DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I have had problems in the past with Spybot loading up, it can take a =
> while. The big problem with both pograms is that depending on your =
> firewall they may not be able to autoupdate. We use Ad-Aware a lot, and
> =
> I manually download the reference file. Another program I like is =
> Spywareblaster, http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html. It
> =
> sets kill bits for a lot of these types of programs so that they cannot
> =
> install. Nice thing is that it doesn't have to be running to protect =
> you. I have not tried it in a thin/Citrix environment yet though.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim=20
> 
> 
> Do you have any advice on the install?
> 
> After SpyBot is installed does it take a while to login?
> 
> Thanks,
> MM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim=20
> 
> 
> Lavasoft.de Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de and the free Spybot Search =
> and
> Destroy at http://www.tucows.com/preview/310138.html
> are two spyware and adware removal tools.  What one doesn't catch the =
> other
> does.  You will be AMAZED after running these programs how many
> things they find on your system and clean up.  Spybot allows you to
> "immunize" your system thereby preventing the infections from happening
> again.
> Adaware has ad blocking features in the purchased version. The free =
> version
> does not have that feature.  You need both of these because they catch
> =
> and
> fix different things.  Be sure and do the update for pattern files
> after =
> you
> install each of these products.  You also might not want to run them =
> with
> users on the system.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and =
> Destroy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 19-04-2004 1:05 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> I've got these on my local boxes and they work great.  Any tips on the
> installation?  Can I use the FREE version of AdAware or do I need to
> buy =
> the
> professional?
> MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
> 
> Spybot Search and Destroy and Lavasoft.de Adaware together forever and
> =
> ever
> amen will fix you right up.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs!
> 
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> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=20
> Starting at $199!=20
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #38 in digest
> From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:24:50 -0400
> 
> No just install it as an admin. No need to do it in change user install
> mode.  We've done it on at least 15 servers with no issues.
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Matt Maher
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Do you have any advice on the install?
> 
> After SpyBot is installed does it take a while to login?
> 
> Thanks,
> MM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.net [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:07 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Lavasoft.de Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de and the free Spybot Search
> and
> Destroy at http://www.tucows.com/preview/310138.html
> are two spyware and adware removal tools.  What one doesn't catch the
> other
> does.  You will be AMAZED after running these programs how many
> things they find on your system and clean up.  Spybot allows you to
> "immunize" your system thereby preventing the infections from happening
> again.
> Adaware has ad blocking features in the purchased version. The free
> version
> does not have that feature.  You need both of these because they catch
> and
> fix different things.  Be sure and do the update for pattern files
> after you
> install each of these products.  You also might not want to run them
> with
> users on the system.
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Kornblum, Chris
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim
> 
> 
> Please explain what these do. sounds interesting "Spybot Search and
> Destroy
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #39 in digest
> From: "Columna, Melvin" <Melvin.Columna@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:29:56 -0400
> 
> So I guess the AMD FX-51 or FX-53 are not a suitable candidate?  Do
> they not
> support SMP ??
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Timothy Mangan
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:25 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Opteron processors
> 
> 
> I've been trying to get one into my lab for months, but to no avail
> (yet).
> AMD just doesn't seem to have the relationships with the hardware
> vendors to
> make these available.  It might be different if you are promising to
> buy.
> It's really too bad because it just hurts their cause to not have folks
> talking about how good it is.
> 
> Tim 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Nick Smith
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:59 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Opteron processors
> 
> Does anyone have any experience, good/bad/indifferent yet with running
> TS on
> hardware using Opteron processors?
> Nick
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> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free. 
> Starting at $199! 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #40 in digest
> From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:36:52 -0400
> 
> NOT!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of King, Jesse
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:24 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> 
> 
> I haven't really followed much on these types of programs, but I
> thought
> someone mentioned a bit ago that spybot itself actually installs some
> sort
> of spyware? True or not?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Maher [mailto:mmaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2000 Hangs- to Jim 
> 
> 
> Do you have any advice on the install?
> 
> After SpyBot is installed does it take a while to login?
> 
> Thanks,
> MM
> 
> ---
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #41 in digest
> From: Nick Gage <nickg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> Date: 19 Apr 2004 13:46:20 -0500
> 
> I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some updated 
> information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver product from
> Tricerat 
> was the product of choice to make printing in a TS/Citrix environment 
> easier and less of an administrative headache. Is this still the case,
> or 
> is there something else/better that has come along?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Nick Gage
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #42 in digest
> From: "Taylor, George" <gtaylor@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:54:48 -0600
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> I've been looking at both Screwdrivers and Thinprint for our new
> environment, I've been much more impressed w/ Thinprint.=20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Gage [mailto:nickg@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some updated
> information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver product from
> Tricerat
> was the product of choice to make printing in a TS/Citrix environment
> easier and less of an administrative headache. Is this still the case,
> or is there something else/better that has come along?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Nick Gage
> 
> ********************************************************
> This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients Neoware makes computing
> open,
> secure, reliable, affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=20
> Starting at $199!=20
> http://www.neoware.com
> **********************************************************
> Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> http://thin.net/links.cfm
> ***********************************************************
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> use the below link:
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #43 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:01:11 -0400
> From: "David Teague" <DavidT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> We use the Tricerat Simplify Printing solution and I like it a lot, the
> pricing seemed to work out better than the Thinprint solution and I
> could never get thinprint to work with the barcode printers we use.
> 
> 
> 
> David Teague
> TMTsoftware
> Support Analyst
> 919.493.4433
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taylor, George [mailto:gtaylor@xxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> I've been looking at both Screwdrivers and Thinprint for our new
> environment, I've been much more impressed w/ Thinprint.=3D20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Gage [mailto:nickg@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some updated
> information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver product from
> Tricerat
> was the product of choice to make printing in a TS/Citrix environment
> easier and less of an administrative headache. Is this still the case,
> or is there something else/better that has come along?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Nick Gage
> 
> ********************************************************
> This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients Neoware makes computing
> open,
> secure, reliable, affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=3D20
> Starting at $199!=3D20
> http://www.neoware.com
> **********************************************************
> Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> http://thin.net/links.cfm
> ***********************************************************
> For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode
> use the below link:
> http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm
> 
> 
> ********************************************************
> This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients
> Neoware makes computing open, secure, reliable,=20
> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=20
> Starting at $199!=20
> http://www.neoware.com=20
> **********************************************************
> Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> http://thin.net/links.cfm
> ***********************************************************
> For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20
> set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:
> http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #44 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Spam:Screwdrivers or something else
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:04:38 -0500
> From: "Landin, Mark" <Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> We've been using Simplify Printing (aka Screwdrivers) for about 2 years
> now. We've been happy with it.=20
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Gage
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:46 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Spam:[THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> >=20
> > I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some=20
> > updated information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver=20
> > product from Tricerat was the product of choice to make=20
> > printing in a TS/Citrix environment easier and less of an=20
> > administrative headache. Is this still the case, or is there=20
> > something else/better that has come along?
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> >=20
> > Nick Gage
> >=20
> > ********************************************************
> > This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients Neoware makes=20
> > computing open, secure, reliable, affordable, manageable and=20
> > obsolete-free.=20
> > Starting at $199!=20
> > http://www.neoware.com
> > **********************************************************
> > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> > http://thin.net/links.cfm
> > ***********************************************************
> > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or=20
> > Vacation mode use the below link:
> > http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm
> >=20
> >=20
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #45 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Spam:Screwdrivers or something else
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:16:10 -0400
> From: "PETERSON, DAVID" <DPETERSO@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Same here. Simplify printing has been great for us as well. 
> --------------------------
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Landin, Mark <Mark.Landin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Mon Apr 19 15:04:38 2004
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Spam:Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> We've been using Simplify Printing (aka Screwdrivers) for about 2 years
> now. We've been happy with it.=20
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Gage
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:46 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Spam:[THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> >=20
> > I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some=20
> > updated information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver=20
> > product from Tricerat was the product of choice to make=20
> > printing in a TS/Citrix environment easier and less of an=20
> > administrative headache. Is this still the case, or is there=20
> > something else/better that has come along?
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> >=20
> > Nick Gage
> >=20
> > ********************************************************
> > This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients Neoware makes=20
> > computing open, secure, reliable, affordable, manageable and=20
> > obsolete-free.=20
> > Starting at $199!=20
> > http://www.neoware.com
> > **********************************************************
> > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> > http://thin.net/links.cfm
> > ***********************************************************
> > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or=20
> > Vacation mode use the below link:
> > http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm
> >=20
> >=20
> ********************************************************
> This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients
> Neoware makes computing open, secure, reliable, 
> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free. 
> Starting at $199! 
> http://www.neoware.com 
> **********************************************************
> Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> http://thin.net/links.cfm
> ***********************************************************
> For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or 
> set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #46 in digest
> From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Screwdrivers or something else
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:34:12 -0700
> 
> 
> ScrewDrivers, now called Simplify Printing, is an excellent solution
> for
> when you are dealing with WIN32 clients. It is simple and covers most
> situations.
> 
> ThinPrint has a wider range of client OS support and advanced gateway =
> and
> WAN support that is more sophisiticated and mature.
> 
> For a slam dunk to resolve and ICA PC client print issues, Simplify =
> Printing
> is a great choice. For a broader solution with more options in terms of
> clients and the ability to send print jobs off to other hosts for
> specialized printing and WAN environments check out ThinPrint.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> (602) 432-8649
> (602) 296-0411 fax=20
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> Behalf
> Of Nick Gage
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:46 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Screwdrivers or something else
> 
> 
> I just recently rejoined this list and I am looking for some updated=20
> information. Back a few years ago, the Screwdriver product from
> Tricerat =
> 
> was the product of choice to make printing in a TS/Citrix
> environment=20
> easier and less of an administrative headache. Is this still the case,
> =
> or=20
> is there something else/better that has come along?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Nick Gage
> 
> ********************************************************
> This week's sponsor - Neoware Thin Clients
> Neoware makes computing open, secure, reliable,=20
> affordable, manageable and obsolete-free.=20
> Starting at $199!=20
> http://www.neoware.com=20
> **********************************************************
> Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at:
> http://thin.net/links.cfm
> ***********************************************************
> For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20
> set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:
> http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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