[THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
- From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:36:06 +0100
MessageI always restrict the recent files to about 5 maximum myself.
Your description of the sluggish autocomplete interested me because ive seen
the save as function from word being really slow/sluggish when using the Novell
client with Citrix/Terminal Services. I find its very slow when typing in a new
file name to save ( ive done all the tweaks from ithowto.com).
Thanks for the info, always informative as usual :¬)
regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Mack, Rick
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
Hi,
Many Microsoft apps use common dialog components. The autocompletion function
in IE that completes URLs when you're typing them in by looking at the history
list, is the same one that is used by excel to fill cells if you are typing the
same string in multiple cells, and is used by the office explorer to try and
autocomplete the "save as" filename as well as additional functionality.
Autocompletion doesn't appear to cache anything filename wise, so if you've
got the application data folder redirected, then if you are saving a file in
word etc using the office explorer interface for every keystroke you enter,
autocomplete does a complete filename scan of the office recent files folder
(under application data\microsoft). If there are a large number of files, this
can be really painfully slow.
Since autocompletion is actually quite useful (mostly), it's better to prune
the recent files folder (by GPO or manually) than to disable autocompletion.
Hope that makes sense.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
tel +61 7 32467704
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 10:53 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
Rick
Thats some interesting information you posted with regards to the save as
being potentiallu slow.
What autocompletion option are u referring to ?
regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Mack, Rick
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:37 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
Hi Dave,
Redirect everything you can, although the selection is a bit limited
using a normal GPO.
We set up one site with unmanaged folder redirection, where we redirected
appdata, desktop, personal, cookies, favorites and history to the users home
drive. While managed folder redirection (eg using standard policies) is a lot
easier in terms of implementation, it didn't do all the folders we wanted. More
importantly, because the users home directory locations were organised by
roles, eg no consistent location relative to a server share except
%servername%\%username%$ there wasn't a lot of choice.
However, regardless of the way you do it, folder redirection will
generally prevent large profiles, one of the major problems with logon speed
and roaming profiles. The improvement in logon speeds for users that save files
to their desktop, for example, is dramatic.
One mandatory addition to folder redirection is that you HAVE to also
limit the size of the office recent file list if appdata is redirected. If
autocompletion is enabled (default!) a long recent file list can result in
majorly slow keyboard response when users try to type in a file name using
"save as". Autocompletion tries to do a match against the recent file list for
every keystroke. On a user with several hundred entries in the recent file
folder (appdata\microsoft\office...) this is slow.
regards,
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
tel +61 7 32467704
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 8:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
Out of interest which settings for redirected folders in W2K OU's make
the login process faster (if at all).
I can see that setting "my doc's" to the TS users home drive would be
faster - as my doc's could be huge.
But what about
Application Data
Desktop
Or Start menu
Which is better for speed of login - profile or home drive ? ... has
SP4 made any differences
Dave Boatman
-----Original Message-----
From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 August 2003 04:32
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: roaming profiles not logging off
Hi Jason,
It's a feature of SP4. the profile folder needs to be owned by the
user, and he/shhe needs full access rights.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia.
tel +61 7 3246 7704
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason A. Shivok [mailto:jshivok-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 7:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] roaming profiles not logging off
I am running MFXPe SP3/FR3 Win2kServer SP4. I am getting the error
when I try to logon and logoff a user for the first time. ie there roaming pro
directory is empty:
Windows cannot unload your registry class file. If you have a roaming
profile, your settings are not replicated. Contact your administrator.
DETAIL Access is denied. , Build number ((2195)).
Now if they already have a profile then it logs off ok. Any clues?
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