Exactly, some blades for example do this just as is done on lower end desktops with integrated video chipsets...... Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:14:11 To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [THIN] Re: ram Because the system is sucking up a bunch of it before the OS starts (PCI-X, video, etc). You can get some of it back by using the /PAE switch (yes, even on standard) to map that memory back. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:01 PM To: Thin Subject: [THIN] ram why would a server have 4096mb of ram installed but only report 3455mb installed? i am looking over some servers for a friend of mine and this seems odd.