If I had *ANY* idea, I wouldn't be emailing the list :) It doesn't seem to be a service-order thing... it appears as though the machine has a clean connection to the IMA database... qfarm shows a nice clean list. I'm just not sure where to look next... ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Beekmans Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:30 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: new server in my farm... bloody hell....really hoped to see a difference there.... hmmmmm...what to do next...... ________________________________ Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Gano, David Verzonden: vrijdag 16 september 2005 21:26 Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: new server in my farm... ServiceGroupOrders look the same also... "bad" server existing "good" server System Reserved System Reserved Boot Bus Extender Boot Bus Extender System Bus Extender System Bus Extender SCSI miniport SCSI miniport Port Port Primary Disk Primary Disk SCSI Class SCSI Class SCSI CDROM Class SCSI CDROM Class FSFilter Infrastructure FSFilter Infrastructure FSFilter System FSFilter System FSFilter Bottom FSFilter Bottom FSFilter Copy Protection FSFilter Copy Protection FSFilter Security Enhancer FSFilter Security Enhancer FSFilter Open File FSFilter Open File FSFilter Physical Quota Management FSFilter Physical Quota Management FSFilter Encryption FSFilter Encryption FSFilter Compression FSFilter Compression FSFilter HSM FSFilter HSM FSFilter Cluster File System FSFilter Cluster File System FSFilter System Recovery FSFilter System Recovery FSFilter Quota Management FSFilter Quota Management FSFilter Content Screener FSFilter Content Screener FSFilter Continuous Backup FSFilter Continuous Backup FSFilter Replication FSFilter Replication FSFilter Anti-Virus FSFilter Anti-Virus FSFilter Undelete FSFilter Undelete FSFilter Activity Monitor FSFilter Activity Monitor FSFilter Top FSFilter Top Filter Filter Boot File System Boot File System Base Base Pointer Port Pointer Port Keyboard Port Keyboard Port Pointer Class Pointer Class Keyboard Class Keyboard Class Video Init Video Init Video Video Video Save Video Save File System File System Event Log Event Log Streams Drivers Streams Drivers NDIS Wrapper NDIS Wrapper COM Infrastructure COM Infrastructure UIGroup UIGroup PlugPlay PlugPlay PNP_TDI PNP_TDI NDIS NDIS TDI TDI NetBIOSGroup NetBIOSGroup ShellSvcGroup ShellSvcGroup SchedulerGroup SchedulerGroup AudioGroup AudioGroup SmartCardGroup SmartCardGroup NetworkProvider NetworkProvider MS_WindowsRemoteValidation MS_WindowsRemoteValidation MS_WindowsLocalValidation MS_WindowsLocalValidation SpoolerGroup SpoolerGroup NetDDEGroup NetDDEGroup Parallel arbitrator Parallel arbitrator Extended Base Extended Base PCI Configuration PCI Configuration MS Transactions MS Transactions ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Beekmans Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:07 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: new server in my farm... on which services is the ima depending on? I had this also before but never got the time to solve it, they wanted me to reinstall the server.....I would like to know why this is happening could you check the following HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ServiceGroupOrder maybe we can compare it with a sane server.... I'm at home without a citrix server anywhere close...so can't check for you... ________________________________ Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Gano, David Verzonden: vrijdag 16 september 2005 20:49 Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: new server in my farm... If it's set to manual, it seems to work OK once started. Services are all starting, and they're the same across all the servers in the farm.... ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Beekmans Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:08 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: new server in my farm... what if you set the ima to manual startup? does it work? check the order in which they start, one might be depend on a service that's not ready yet..... need to do a bit of testing......you'll find it. ________________________________ Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Gano, David Verzonden: vrijdag 16 september 2005 16:27 Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Onderwerp: [THIN] new server in my farm... I've just added a new server to an existing small farm (2k3 ent/mfxp fr3/sp3), and it's behaving oddly... at bootup, it's completely unreachable via ICA, until I restart the IMA service; once I restart the service, all's good. Any suggestions?