[THIN] Re: multi monitor support
- From: "BRUTON, Malcolm, FM" <Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:28:00 -0000
Interesting thread. I know that ICA supports Multi monitors a lot better
than RDP but ICA gives us a lot of grief. Basically Citrix always go back
the fact that Multi-monitors is not fully supported until PS4... XPe FR2
started supporting them but with many caveats....We are still on XPe FR3 and
always get the same line. Upgrade to the latest. Not so easy when you have
many many servers and lots of users....Citrix does listen but my experience
is it takes many months to react.
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 03 November 2005 20:12
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
Sounds like Citrix is listening- we have been sending feedback about an ICA
server for XP Workstation and a VMWare node ICA server license as well. I
hope this is what Citrix is working on!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Barry Flanagan
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:01 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
ESX obviously has its advantages. Many people use ESX today to give acces to
VM's over both RDP and ICA(when publishing a VM that includes PS).
This scenario gives you the ability to use ICA to access any OS in a VM, not
just an OS that runs PS. There are some specific features Citrix is building
for XP images that will add new functionality that no other current scenario
provides. When you mix in the performance and features of ICA, the relevant
features of PS and Web Interface, and the new specific features built for
Windows XP images, you have a interesting recipe. You will be able to decide
how tasty that recipe is when this is released next year.
--- Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> That is a perfectly good scenario, but it does not give you the
> efficiencies of ESX server. I was describing running the VM's on ESX
> server and accessing them via RDP. Then you publish mstsc.exe using PS
> which gives you all the benefits of Presentation Server while
> maintaining a dedicated workstation node running on ESX.
>
> Running the VM's on PS locally is fine, but resource contention is
> going to be an issue IMHO.....
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> (602) 432-8649
> (602) 296-0411 fax
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> Of Barry Flanagan
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
>
>
> No. Let me describe how the solution is built. Once you see how all
> the parts fit together, you can get a better feel for what this will
> ultimately look like.
>
> PS 4.0 running on Windows 2003. VMWare Workstation is running on
> Windows 2003. You publish a command line to VMware workstation that
> points to a VM image (it could be Windows XP, Linux, Windows 2003
> Server, etc...) The user logs on to Web Interface, and sees what Vm or
> VM's they are allowed to access. If a Windows Xp vm is published, they
> click on that icon and run their own instance of Windows XP running on
> PS.
>
> Here is one example of where this fits:
> Many developers need access to multiple images. Now, instead of
> getting alot of hardware and vm images, a developer can logon from any
> where and have access to a wide array of images, whether they are down
> the hall, across town, or outsourced all over the globe. Whether they
> need one image or 20, the client requirements are the same. If you
> combine this idea with the USB virtual client keys being offered by
> Red Cannon, Realm Systems, Authentex, or Axalto, the only corporate
> asset need would be a USB to provide secure access to a wide array of
> images and applications. Some software companies are actually doing
> something similar to this now for developers in multiple locations.
> This concept builds on top of what people are some are doing today and
> takes it farther.
>
> That is one specific area that I have heard about where this concept
> makes alot of sense. You may think of others based on this example. I
> hope that explanation clears it up for you.
> --- "Lilley, Brian" <brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > ok, what exactly does 'publishing client VM's on Presentation
> Server',
> > mean? do you mean running presentation server on client OS
> instances
> > which are running on vmware?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Barry Flanagan
> > Sent: 03 November 2005 17:04
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> >
> >
> >
> > The BladeRunner project is about publishing client VM's on
> > Presentation Server. One of the specific features targeted for
> the
> > product is multiple monitor support.
> >
> >
> > --- Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think the IBM thing is about having Citrix Presentation
> server
> > > provide the publishing of VMware instances via RDP. So, in
> effect,
> > > you are publishing RDP sessions via PS. Is that what other
> people
> > > understand?
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of Lilley, Brian
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:56 AM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks chaps.... so I wonder if the Citrix/Vmware/IBM recent
> > > announcements (pc grids??) will support multi monitor. Not
> sure
> > > what Citrix
> > bits
> > > are in
> > > there. I understand that Citrix is the transport mechanism?
> > would
> > > be nice
> > > if there were other citrix bits like multi-monitor support etc
> > > etc...???
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
> > > Sent: 03 November 2005 16:10
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > oops, your right it was about a workstation, get out the
> paddle!!
> > >
> > > BTW- we have been bother Citrix for a long time to implement an
> > ICA
> > > server
> > > on XP for this reason !!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of Dogers
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:03 AM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > I think mr lilley is actually talking about 2000/xp pro
> > > workstations, rather than connecting to servers :)
> > >
> > > In which case I think he might be doing doggy paddle up a
> certain
> > > creek!
> > >
> > > Andrew
>
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