[THIN] Re: multi monitor support
- From: Barry Flanagan <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:05 -0800 (PST)
ESX obviously has its advantages. Many people use ESX today to give
acces to VM's over both RDP and ICA(when publishing a VM that
includes PS).
This scenario gives you the ability to use ICA to access any OS in a
VM, not just an OS that runs PS. There are some specific features
Citrix is building for XP images that will add new functionality that
no other current scenario provides. When you mix in the performance
and features of ICA, the relevant features of PS and Web Interface,
and the new specific features built for Windows XP images, you have a
interesting recipe. You will be able to decide how tasty that recipe
is when this is released next year.
--- Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> That is a perfectly good scenario, but it does not give you the
> efficiencies
> of ESX server. I was describing running the VM's on ESX server and
> accessing
> them via RDP. Then you publish mstsc.exe using PS which gives you
> all the
> benefits of Presentation Server while maintaining a dedicated
> workstation
> node running on ESX.
>
> Running the VM's on PS locally is fine, but resource contention is
> going to
> be an issue IMHO.....
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> (602) 432-8649
> (602) 296-0411 fax
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> Of Barry Flanagan
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
>
>
> No. Let me describe how the solution is built. Once you see how all
> the
> parts fit together, you can get a better feel for what this will
> ultimately
> look like.
>
> PS 4.0 running on Windows 2003. VMWare Workstation is running on
> Windows
> 2003. You publish a command line to VMware workstation that points
> to a VM
> image (it could be Windows XP, Linux, Windows 2003 Server, etc...)
> The user
> logs on to Web Interface, and sees what Vm or VM's they are allowed
> to
> access. If a Windows Xp vm is published, they click on that icon
> and run
> their own instance of Windows XP running on PS.
>
> Here is one example of where this fits:
> Many developers need access to multiple images. Now, instead of
> getting alot
> of hardware and vm images, a developer can logon from any where and
> have
> access to a wide array of images, whether they are down the hall,
> across
> town, or outsourced all over the globe. Whether they need one image
> or 20,
> the client requirements are the same. If you combine this idea with
> the USB
> virtual client keys being offered by Red Cannon, Realm Systems,
> Authentex,
> or Axalto, the only corporate asset need would be a USB to provide
> secure
> access to a wide array of images and applications. Some software
> companies
> are actually doing something similar to this now for developers in
> multiple
> locations. This concept builds on top of what people are some are
> doing
> today and takes it farther.
>
> That is one specific area that I have heard about where this
> concept makes
> alot of sense. You may think of others based on this example. I
> hope that
> explanation clears it up for you.
> --- "Lilley, Brian" <brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > ok, what exactly does 'publishing client VM's on Presentation
> Server',
> > mean? do you mean running presentation server on client OS
> instances
> > which are running on vmware?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Barry Flanagan
> > Sent: 03 November 2005 17:04
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> >
> >
> >
> > The BladeRunner project is about publishing client VM's on
> > Presentation Server. One of the specific features targeted for
> the
> > product is multiple monitor support.
> >
> >
> > --- Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think the IBM thing is about having Citrix Presentation
> server
> > > provide the publishing of VMware instances via RDP. So, in
> effect,
> > > you are publishing RDP sessions via PS. Is that what other
> people
> > > understand?
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of Lilley, Brian
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:56 AM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks chaps.... so I wonder if the Citrix/Vmware/IBM recent
> > > announcements (pc grids??) will support multi monitor. Not
> sure
> > > what Citrix
> > bits
> > > are in
> > > there. I understand that Citrix is the transport mechanism?
> > would
> > > be nice
> > > if there were other citrix bits like multi-monitor support etc
> > > etc...???
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
> > > Sent: 03 November 2005 16:10
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > oops, your right it was about a workstation, get out the
> paddle!!
> > >
> > > BTW- we have been bother Citrix for a long time to implement an
> > ICA
> > > server
> > > on XP for this reason !!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of Dogers
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:03 AM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: multi monitor support
> > >
> > >
> > > I think mr lilley is actually talking about 2000/xp pro
> > > workstations, rather than connecting to servers :)
> > >
> > > In which case I think he might be doing doggy paddle up a
> certain
> > > creek!
> > >
> > > Andrew
>
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