We are using eTrust AntiVirus so far without issues. We are only running about 10 users per server at this stage so hard to determine the impact AV is having. I have had performance issues with Mcafee in the past. I do think because we have users who only access Citrix it is important for us to run AV on the server. We simple can't afford to be down because one user goes to a website and downloads a virus etc. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pardee, Michael P. Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:59 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Yet Another Anti Virus On Citrix Question (hopefully with a twist) This is a little long... I know the topic of AV and Citrix has been beaten to death here, but I had an interesting thing happen the other week and wanted to see if anyone else had seen anything similar. Although we are moving to a shiny new Win2k3/MFXP environment, we unfortunately have to keep the NT4/MF1.8 servers up for another 6 months or so. We have barely been able to get more than 65 users on a server concurrently. Heavy thin client users with published full desktops. For years we have worked with Microsoft and Citrix troubleshooting BSOD issues that have really gone nowhere. As a last ditch attempt, I had one of our guys completely remove McAfee off of one of the servers in an attempt to eliminate yet another variable. Not only has that one server stayed up for the past 3 weeks but, due to bringing it back in to the load incorrectly, it also had 94 users on it. Before we would get 1450 errors and would constantly run out of registry quota. All of a sudden that one server was handling 1.5 times its normal load. So that got me to thinking - in our new environment I am seeing closer to 100 users per server, but the memory usage is obscene. Performance is acceptable though. Has anyone else ran in to AV software severely limiting the number of users you can support on a server? Is it purely a McAfee thing? One of our new hires mentioned that they used McAfee where he came from, replaced it with Trend, and nearly doubled the amount of users on a server. I realize my mileage may very, but if I am truly not crazy and McAfee could be the root of all of our issues, I am more than happy to look for alternative solutions. One last question, do most of you even run AV software on your Citrix servers? Thanks! > Michael Pardee > Director > Coventry Health Care, Inc. > Phone: (724) 778-3733 > Fax: (724) 778-6899 > Email Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this transmission is confidential, proprietary or privileged and may be subject to protection under the law, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). The message is intended for the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited and may subject you to criminal or civil penalties. If you received this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately by replying to this email and delete the material from any computer. ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! Part of The Kenzig Group. http://www.seamlessplanet.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Awesome SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! Part of The Kenzig Group. http://www.seamlessplanet.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Awesome SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm