Hi Matt It would be interesting to find out where the business thinks that VDI is of use. We find that XenApp is now classed as one of the components of desktop virtualisation and its the use case that's important. We all know that we are never going to deliver 3D graphics with XenApp (or a hosted shared desktop in XenDesktop terms) but we'd need to do something clever like streaming the image to a desktop blade to get the performance required. The Wyse Zero client, the Xenith, works well. It has most of the HDX offerings and have played audio through it with little problem. There is no Flash offload yet, hopefully will come sometime soon. Also, some of the new features such as the Print Optimization Pack from Citrix won't work on non Windows clients. We've also been testing the Fujitsu Zero client and it requires PanoLogic to work. It also only works with XenDesktop (not XenApp) so we'll have to wait till we are on a XD site to try this one out. And its another layer on top of XenDesktop as the client points to PanoLogic server and then the PanoLogic points to the hypervisor system and the desktop broker. The protocol between the client and the PanoLogic server is PanoLogic's own so Citrix Sessions using HDX are completely separate. I've avoided doing much on VMware View as once you deliver the desktop I'm not convinced ThinApp is the way to deliver the apps. If you use Citrix, you've paid for delivering the desktop already. Hope this helps. Keen to hear of other experiences. Cheers Russell From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M Sent: 02 March 2011 23:59 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Xen Desktop and other VDi solutions Hello there, I have been asked to look at VDI solutions to compliment our XenApp Environment. There are a number of solutions out there including XenDesktop. I quite like XenDesktop and it is a natural compliment to our Xenapp environment .... but i would like to see what other solutions other people may have experience of. We have around 10 000 users running the usual mixed bag of apps. CAD is there , but this isnt being considered for the VDI solution. A buzzword that i keep reading about is "zero client". We have a number of Wyse devices and Wyse do indeed provide their own Zero client. I have also been reading up on other solutions Teradici and a company headed by an Ex Wyse chappie .. Pano Logic .. although this looks like a smaller non enterprise type of solution. Does anyone have any comments on VDI solutions including the ones i have mentioned ? Thanks for your time Matt