[THIN] Re: Xen Desktop and other VDi solutions

  • From: Russell Robertson <russell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:09:18 +0000

Hi Matt

It would be interesting to find out where the business thinks that VDI is of 
use. We find that XenApp is now classed as one of the components of desktop 
virtualisation and its the use case that's important.

We all know that we are never going to deliver 3D graphics with XenApp (or a 
hosted shared desktop in XenDesktop terms) but we'd need to do something clever 
like streaming the image to a desktop blade to get the performance required.

The Wyse Zero client, the Xenith, works well. It has most of the HDX offerings 
and have played audio through it with little problem. There is no Flash offload 
yet, hopefully will come sometime soon. Also, some of the new features such as 
the Print Optimization Pack from Citrix won't work on non Windows clients.

We've also been testing the Fujitsu Zero client and it requires PanoLogic to 
work. It also only works with XenDesktop (not XenApp) so we'll have to wait 
till we are on a XD site to try this one out. And its another layer on top of 
XenDesktop as the client points to PanoLogic server and then the PanoLogic 
points to the hypervisor system and the desktop broker. The protocol between 
the client and the PanoLogic server is PanoLogic's own so Citrix Sessions using 
HDX are completely separate.

I've avoided doing much on VMware View as once you deliver the desktop I'm not 
convinced ThinApp is the way to deliver the apps. If you use Citrix, you've 
paid for delivering the desktop already.

Hope this helps. Keen to hear of other experiences.



From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Sent: 02 March 2011 23:59
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Xen Desktop and other VDi solutions

Hello there,

I have been asked to look at VDI solutions to compliment our XenApp Environment.
There are a number of solutions out there including XenDesktop.
I quite like XenDesktop and it is a natural compliment to our Xenapp 
environment .... but i would like to see what other solutions other people may 
have experience of.
We have around 10 000 users running the usual mixed bag of apps. CAD is there , 
but this isnt being considered for the VDI solution.

A buzzword that i keep reading about is "zero client". We have a number of Wyse 
devices and Wyse do indeed provide their own Zero client.
I have also been reading up on other solutions Teradici and a company headed by 
an Ex Wyse chappie .. Pano Logic .. although this looks like a smaller non 
enterprise type of solution.
Does anyone have any comments on VDI solutions including the ones i have 
mentioned ?

Thanks for your time


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