[THIN] Re: Wyse Rapport

  • From: Paul Beckman <pbeckman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:51:55 -0500

 
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Maybe you missed the part "Now do I like them...  No!"  I will agree
with you about the T20, and Rapport.  I hate Wise, but unfortunately,
I have to live with the poor decisions other people have made.  I am
sure everyone on this list can agree, that at some point of there
career they two have to fight with crappy software that someone else
has bought and told you to make work because you already have it.

I really like The Neoware, not only because of the management piece
but because of the price.  They are way cheaper.  Isn't it always
about saving money.  So why buy a thin client that has only been on
the market a year or so that cost 800+ dollars and uses someone
else's management piece? If the Altiris client can manage "almost
EVERY workstation and device (pocket pc's even) on your network" then
why pay and extra $500 for the NetX.  

I know that everybody has opinions and you are very happy with the
NetX and it obviously fits your environment.  You just have to
remember that your opinions weight very heavy on other people.  It
just always seems that when someone has a problem with another
product the first thing we can expect is a NetX ad.


I did listen to your advise and called them and wanted to buy 100
boxes but they were way to $$ for me.  As for future purchases we
will go with NeoWare.



P.S.

Thanks for keeping this board open, and allowing us to freely vent
our opinions.


Paul

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From: Jim Kenzig [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 4:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Wyse Rapport 



The T20 is just a wyse box with the compaq name on it.  It isn't
about current funds Paul. How much is your time worth Paul? How much
time do you have to mess with software that is subpar in the first
place? The other word to remember is Amortization.  How much will
this product be worth in 3 years and over 3 years?  Wyse changes and
discontinues their products as often as I used to change my babies
diapers. Every time you send a unit back to them it comes back with a
different bios rev that you have to figure out where the heck
everything is again in it just to configure the thing.  If your techs
have to take the time to learn and support 20 different revs of bios
in your terminals it gets pretty outrageous.

The Altiris management piece can be used to manage almost EVERY
workstation and device (pocket pc's even) on your network. Put the
client on a server and you have a remote way of managing your servers
desktop from your desk. Push the client out to any workstation and
instantly manage and shadow any PC on your network.  That isn't worth
a little extra money to you?

Forward thinking companies are designing boxes that will allow for
expansion and extended capabilities. Wyses mentality has always been
...here it is...it will be obsolete in a year so you'll have to buy
more from us then. What you don't like that?...phhtt tough...we are
the biggest, that makes us the best.

I've saved hundreds of travel hours alone using Altiris to manage our
PC's at remote locations.  I barely have to leave my desk anymore.
Take another look at the product.

JK



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We do use Compaq T20 here and we do use Rapport also...  Now do I
like them...  No!   I am a big fan of Compaq but hate Wise.  I have
run the neoware box and really love it.  I used it about two years
ago and they have only gotten better.  They have a really nice Linux
box with the ica client on it.  The management piece is great!   I
have priced out the netX box and can not justify spending 800+ on a
thin client!  I don't care how good the management piece is.  Sorry
if I am making enemies but I was not impressed with NetX.

If I had unlimited funds then I would buy a NetX...  But I don't.



Paul
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