[THIN] Re: Worst TS newbie mistake
- From: "TheThin" <TheThin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:41:41 -0500
This is a great point. If you plan to grow, and can at all afford to
buy extra servers use the "silo" approach and pick up some extra TS
boxes that are the exact same hardware set. I worked at an ASP that
went with the current best deal on servers, and we were constanly
battling small oddities, driver problems etc. It also meant we couldn't
clone our boxes as easily, and no matter how diligent the technician, if
your not doing a 100% scripted install (virtually impossible), or
cloning the servers - the servers will have small differences.
If you can't afford to buy extra TS boxes now, keep an eye on your
vendor and at the end of the product life-cycle stock up if you can.
For instance when Dell rolls out 2750s to replace 2650s and you already
have a 2650 stock up on as many more as you can afford. The performance
improvements in the new hardware will be less important than
standardized equipment. The ability to image or clone servers is huge.
You don't need XPE with the software rollout features at this point, but
your going to want to be able to clone your servers to get them up
quickly. Cloning also ensures that all the servers start the same (and
can be brought back to an identical setup once the users have mucked
them up) quicky and easily.
-Brian Politis
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Aston [mailto:ianaston@xxxxxxxx]=20
Posted At: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:26 AM
Posted To: TheThin
Conversation: [THIN] Re: Worst TS newbie mistake
Subject: [THIN] Re: Worst TS newbie mistake
Hi Nick,
If you can, standardise your hardware and work from one image. Keep this
consistent and work it into your change control procedure... ie. When
installing a new SP, image your test server with the latest image build,
install, test, test, then test it... At this stage, create a new image
with the SP on it, then put this image on your servers. Makes it really
easy to roll back if you have to do it in a hurry.
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Madden
Sent: 19 February 2004 15:08
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Worst TS newbie mistake
Two Biggest Mistakes:
(1) Buying Citrix when you don't need it.
(2) Not treating your servers like servers.
More information
(1) A lot of people automatically buy MetaFrame XP when TS will do fine
(or when New Moon or Jetro would do). Also, a lot of people buy
MetaFrame XPe when XPa will do, etc.
(2) Even though these servers are used like workstations, a lot of
people blindly install patches, hotfixes, and SPs without fully testing
them. This is a big no no!
Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:22 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Worst TS newbie mistake
I am just starting to roll out our TS farm (I say farm; right now it
consists of one win 2003 TS, one Excahnge Server). We currently have a
grand total of 6 clients, expected to rise to around 50-odd in the next
3 months and then substantial increases to a few thousand in 2-3 years
(It's an ASP).
=20
Everyone on this list, I presume started out at some point with their
first server farm, so I'm hoping I can learn from your experience; what
are the stupid things I should avoid doing now, because they may look
easy/cheap now (We have budgetary constraints), but will come back to
bite me? Particularly, what might I do now that is irretrievvable
without considerable effort in the future?
=20
Nick
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