LOL... Jim.. I love it.. You did not kill that man last week did you??? But, I think it goes deeper than being an open book. The ³we know all² world is a very scary place as power corupts and I can give you a billion examples of how good people use info for bad purposes... Also, I¹m an open book too. I mean, search google for ³Doug Brown²... It is me.. Top of list.... So, I can be found too... I live at... 265 Montelluna... Oops.. Too much info.. ;) Anyhoo, I agree with you but at the same time it is a scary thing... I just hope freedom always wins.... On 5/30/08 9:50 PM, "Jim Kenzig" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Remember that 80's song.. I always feel like someone is watching me... and I > get no privacy! LOL > The damage is done in my case I am afraid. My life is out there and anyone can > find me. > > That being said every web site you visit your activity is logged. Ever done a > Ctrl-h in IE after a day of browsing and looked at the history that comes up? > Hey I'm an open book. I don't really care what someone thinks about me, you'll > get my honest opinion whether you like it or not. I've had my share of flame > wars over the years and I think I may of killed a man in Texas just to watch > him die but that is all fuzzy it could of been a movie. > JK > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@> wrote: >> I have a problem with Google apps and it is around security and privacy. I >> don't know if I want to put my corp. data or my personal data in the hands >> of the kings on indexing and then have them use it to market to me or worse. >> What keeps Google from using that info that way or in a worse way? >> >> I read a very disturbing booked called "IBM and the Holocaust" where Nazi >> Germany used the info IBM collected to kill people based on their blood. >> Nothing worse than that and I know this sounds funny and way off base but I >> bet it sounded the same in 1929 when they did they last census before Hitler >> started using the data for bad. >> >> Google has already shown they will bend over to China and give names to the >> Chinese Govt. and I bet those people (the names) are not so well off at the >> moment and maybe not so far off from the fate of what was used in Germany in >> the 30's and early 40's... This is a slippery slope and I don't trust >> Google one bit. You can have the mantra, "Do no evil" but their China >> policy already shows they have the ability to partner with Evil. >> >> So, that being said, I don't trust it... But, they do create some killer >> software... But I will keep my business docs and personal docs on my network >> not with the king of indexing.. >> >> Also, I know this sounds far fetched but did Bush not ask Google for search >> results? And of course if you have nothing to hide then what is the >> problem? It is a slippery slope and has the ability to be used in a VERY >> bad away. >> >> My wife does not agree... But I think a lot of people did not know what >> would happen before it happened. That is why the EU has such tight privacy >> policies... They have seen what info in the hands of "indexers" will do. >> It happened 3 times in Europe in the 1900s... >> >> Also, I actually did not come up with all this by myself. They had this >> discussion on the Cranky Geeks (www.crakygeeks.com >> <http://www.crakygeeks.com/> ) and amazing video >> podcast show... I highly recommend it. It is an awesome show... >> >> >> Am I losing it or does anyone see any validity do my argument? >> >> >> >> >> On 5/30/08 6:04 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > Hmmmm... I have sort of ignored Google apps, but I trust Greg, should >>> check >>> > that out..... >>> > >>> > SteveG >>> > >>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> >>> > >>> > Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:35:56 >>> > To:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:To%3Athin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista >>> > >>> > >>> > I really think we could make due with Google Apps too. A few hard core >>> > financial people and higher ups need full MS Office, but most of the day >>> to >>> > day could use google apps and live. at $50 a person for email, >>> calendaring, >>> > power point, excel, word, document storage. Plus I don't have to back it >>> up, >>> > provide storage etc. It's not too bad to think about. >> >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 >>> > at 4:07 PM, Doug Rooney <Doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > <mailto:Doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Ubuntu for workstations, >>> > CentOS for servers, works for us J >> >> Thank You >> -Doug Rooney >> Sonoma >>> > Tilemakers >> IT Systems Administrator >> 7750 Bell Rd. >> Windsor Ca, 95492 >> >>> > (707) 837-8177 X11 >> (707) 837-9472 FAX >> it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > <mailto:it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk >> Sent: Friday, May >>> > 30, 2008 2:02 PM >> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> I guess it's time to switch to a Mac. >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 >>> > at 10:42 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> > >>> wrote: >>> > >> >> As I said a few weeks ago on the Windows 2000 list .. start learning Vista >>> > now... >> >> >> >>> > >> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about_w >>> > indows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535 >>> > >>> <http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about>>> _w >>> > indows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535> >> >> -- >> Jim Kenzig >> Microsoft MVP - >>> > Windows Server Presentation and Hosted Desktop Virtualization >> Citrix >>> > Technology Professional >> Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/> >>> > <http://www.techblink.com/> >> >> >> >> ************************************************ >> For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or >> set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: >> //www.freelists.org/list/thin >> ************************************************ > >