[THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 03:02:26 +0000
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From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:51:09
To:<thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Re: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
it is NEVER the OS's fault... ALWAYS something else... ;) Nvidia is the
problem behind Vista.... We all know that. If it was not for nvidia vista
would be so fast.. ;)
LOL
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Shonk
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:46 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Well, if you consider Intel’s Graphics cards then you have a point.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
oh come on Steve. We can't expect an OS to use resources properly, can we?
No way...... it is bad hardware........ we all know that... It can't be the
OS's fault.
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.dabcc.com
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Greenberg
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
That would be awesome, but since we are making wishes here, how about an OS
that does not expect and require a hard drive and spin so many cycles writing
crap to it all the time??
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
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Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Oh yes it is .... XP SP3 is super fast but once you load Windows Search on XP
then it slows down and I bet your Vista box was indexing like crazy too. But
then you want to install Windows Search on XP if you are going to be using
Outlook so you can index your outlook content. It is never ending. Lord
knows I want to fork out the dollars for a solid state drive. Can you imagine
ESX and all its VMs running from solid state drives? (forget the amazing, out
of control, price) but someday it will be affordable and that day will be a
very good day...
On 6/1/08 3:27 PM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> >
wrote:
From what I could tell (The resource monitors points to the system process) the
VM was causing the HD’s in my storage box to crank away. I’m guessing that
Vista decided it would be nice to run a defrag, system scan or something of the
sort after the install. It finally settled down after an hour or so. I will
still say that Vista with SP1 is considerably slower than Win XP SP3.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
why is it so slow? what is holding it up? CPU? Memory? Disk?? Something
else?
and I think vista is NOT a client for VMs... needs WAY too much RAM. XP is
much better but people want Vista.. oh my...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> >
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com> <http://www.dabcc.com/
<http://www.dabcc.com/> >
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
I just got done installing Vista in VM (XenServer) and now I want go curl up
in a corner and cry. It’s painfully slow in a VM compared to Vista. It took
20+ minutes to bring up a network share (win 2003 server) so that I could
launch the Provision Server Client Install. I should get Camtasia or
ScreenRecorder and document this.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Yah, I agree with you Joe. I actually love Vista as I have a REALLY FAST PC
so it can handle vista but it is far from what I would like. So, I have
switched to the Mac in some ways. I have two Mac. A 17" laptop and a 14"
laptop. I love them BUT, without VMware Fusion I find it to be useless for
business. In fact, I don't use it at all for work but only use it as an iTunes
box, for podcasts, for videos, movies, and all that stuff... Office 2008 is
much better but I just hate having only one mouse button and I know I can plug
a mouse in but not while I'm on my couch or in bed (I love to work in bed, is
that too much info for you guys??? )... So, Thanks for VMware and Parallels
my Mac is useful but I really need a solid state drive as I HATE the slowness
of the VMs... I sit and wait and wait and wait and now matter how much you hate
Vista I don't wait with Vista.. Only XP running in a VM on my Mac...
So, I pray Microsoft gets 7 right. I think they know how we all feel and
today it is just way tooooooooo early to tell what 7 will be like... But, I
jus don't think the Mac is a solution..
Although, I know Steve G is a big Mac guy so I would love to hear his views on
it and maybe he can explain how I can use my Mac for more than just fun.. ;)
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> >
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com> <http://www.dabcc.com/
<http://www.dabcc.com/> >
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
I guess it's time to switch to a Mac.
Joe
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As I said a few weeks ago on the Windows 2000 list .. start learning Vista
now...
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about_windows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
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