[THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
- From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:51:09 -0400
it is NEVER the OS's fault... ALWAYS something else... ;) Nvidia is
the problem behind Vista.... We all know that. If it was not for
nvidia vista would be so fast.. ;)
LOL
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:46 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Well, if you consider Intel's Graphics cards then you have a point.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
oh come on Steve. We can't expect an OS to use resources properly, can
we? No way...... it is bad hardware........ we all know that... It
can't be the OS's fault.
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
That would be awesome, but since we are making wishes here, how about an
OS that does not expect and require a hard drive and spin so many cycles
writing crap to it all the time??
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Oh yes it is .... XP SP3 is super fast but once you load Windows Search
on XP then it slows down and I bet your Vista box was indexing like
crazy too. But then you want to install Windows Search on XP if you
are going to be using Outlook so you can index your outlook content. It
is never ending. Lord knows I want to fork out the dollars for a
solid state drive. Can you imagine ESX and all its VMs running from
solid state drives? (forget the amazing, out of control, price) but
someday it will be affordable and that day will be a very good day...
On 6/1/08 3:27 PM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From what I could tell (The resource monitors points to the system
process) the VM was causing the HD's in my storage box to crank away.
I'm guessing that Vista decided it would be nice to run a defrag, system
scan or something of the sort after the install. It finally settled
down after an hour or so. I will still say that Vista with SP1 is
considerably slower than Win XP SP3.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
why is it so slow? what is holding it up? CPU? Memory? Disk??
Something else?
and I think vista is NOT a client for VMs... needs WAY too much RAM. XP
is much better but people want Vista.. oh my...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
I just got done installing Vista in VM (XenServer) and now I want go
curl up in a corner and cry. It's painfully slow in a VM compared to
Vista. It took 20+ minutes to bring up a network share (win 2003
server) so that I could launch the Provision Server Client Install. I
should get Camtasia or ScreenRecorder and document this.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
Yah, I agree with you Joe. I actually love Vista as I have a REALLY
FAST PC so it can handle vista but it is far from what I would like.
So, I have switched to the Mac in some ways. I have two Mac. A 17"
laptop and a 14" laptop. I love them BUT, without VMware Fusion I find
it to be useless for business. In fact, I don't use it at all for work
but only use it as an iTunes box, for podcasts, for videos, movies, and
all that stuff... Office 2008 is much better but I just hate having
only one mouse button and I know I can plug a mouse in but not while I'm
on my couch or in bed (I love to work in bed, is that too much info for
you guys??? )... So, Thanks for VMware and Parallels my Mac is
useful but I really need a solid state drive as I HATE the slowness of
the VMs... I sit and wait and wait and wait and now matter how much you
hate Vista I don't wait with Vista.. Only XP running in a VM on my
Mac...
So, I pray Microsoft gets 7 right. I think they know how we all feel
and today it is just way tooooooooo early to tell what 7 will be like...
But, I jus don't think the Mac is a solution..
Although, I know Steve G is a big Mac guy so I would love to hear his
views on it and maybe he can explain how I can use my Mac for more than
just fun.. ;)
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (941) 827-9073
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
I guess it's time to switch to a Mac.
Joe
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As I said a few weeks ago on the Windows 2000 list .. start learning
Vista now...
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_ab
out_windows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
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