[THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:46:05 -0700

Well, if you consider Intel's Graphics cards then you have a point.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

 

oh come on Steve.  We can't expect an OS to use resources properly, can we?
No way...... it is bad hardware........ we all know that... It can't be the
OS's fault. 

 

 

 

Douglas A. Brown

President and Chief Technology Officer 

 

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 

Citrix Technology Professional 

 

DABCC, Inc.

 

Phone:    (954) 778-9558

Fax:         (941) 827-9073

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

 

That would be awesome, but since we are making wishes here, how about an OS
that does not expect and require a hard drive and spin so many cycles
writing crap to it all the time??

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas Brown
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:39 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

 

Oh yes it is ....  XP SP3 is super fast but once you load Windows Search on
XP then it slows down and I bet your Vista box was indexing like crazy too.
But then you want to install Windows Search on XP if you are going to be
using Outlook so you can index your outlook content.  It is never ending.
Lord knows I want to fork out the dollars for a solid state drive.  Can you
imagine ESX and all its VMs running from solid state drives?  (forget the
amazing, out of control, price) but someday it will be affordable and that
day will be a very good day...  




On 6/1/08 3:27 PM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From what I could tell (The resource monitors points to the system process)
the VM was causing the HD's in my storage box to crank away.  I'm guessing
that Vista decided it would be nice to run a defrag, system scan or
something of the sort after the install.  It finally settled down after an
hour or so.  I will still say that Vista with SP1 is considerably slower
than Win XP SP3.
 
Joe
 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

why is it so slow?  what is holding it up?  CPU?  Memory?  Disk?? Something
else?
 
and I think vista is NOT a client for VMs... needs WAY too much RAM.  XP is
much better but people want Vista.. oh my...
 
DB
 

Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer 

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 
Citrix Technology Professional 

DABCC, Inc.

Phone:    (954) 778-9558
Fax:        (941) 827-9073
 
E-mail:       dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> 
Web:        http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/> 


From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

I just got done installing Vista in VM (XenServer) and now I want go curl up
in a corner and cry.   It's painfully slow in a VM compared to Vista.  It
took 20+ minutes to bring up a network share (win 2003 server) so that I
could launch the Provision Server Client Install.   I should get Camtasia or
ScreenRecorder and document this.
 
Joe
 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista

Yah, I agree with you Joe.   I actually love Vista as I have a REALLY FAST
PC so it can handle vista but it is far from what I would like.   So, I have
switched to the Mac in some ways.  I have two Mac.  A 17" laptop and a 14"
laptop.  I love them BUT, without VMware Fusion I find it to be useless for
business.  In fact, I don't use it at all for work but only use it as an
iTunes box, for podcasts, for videos,  movies, and all that stuff...
Office 2008 is much better but I just hate having only one mouse button and
I know I can plug a mouse in but not while I'm on my couch or in bed (I love
to work in bed, is that too much info for you guys???  )...    So, Thanks
for VMware and Parallels my Mac is useful but I really need a solid state
drive as I HATE the slowness of the VMs... I sit and wait and wait and wait
and now matter how much you hate Vista I don't wait with Vista.. Only XP
running in a VM on my Mac... 
 
 
So, I pray Microsoft gets 7 right.  I think they know how we all feel and
today it is just way tooooooooo early to tell what 7 will be like...    But,
I jus don't think the Mac is a solution..  
 
Although, I know Steve G is a big Mac guy so I would love to hear his views
on it and maybe he can explain how I can use my Mac for more than just fun..
;)
 
DB
 
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer 

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 
Citrix Technology Professional 

DABCC, Inc.

Phone:    (954) 778-9558
Fax:        (941) 827-9073
 
E-mail:       dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> 
Web:        http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/> 


From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista


I guess it's time to switch to a Mac.



Joe

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As I said a few weeks ago on the Windows 2000 list .. start learning Vista
now...



http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about_
windows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535

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