[THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and FR3
- From: "Rowlandson, John" <John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:40:02 +1100
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
www.mallesons.com
Confidential communication
yeah, we've had a copy of 6.6a for a month of so which suposoedly fixes =
a teaming on a cluster node and stopping clean failover issue.........
they still suck...........
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Thomas, Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 11:14 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and FR3
NIC teaming on Dell 2650s:
Nice to see we're not the only people with problems...
We team for redundancy, not load balancing, but our TSs have been =
falling=3D
over under relatively moderate loads (40 users). We have also had =
proble=3D
ms with Lotus Notes servers that are load / NIC related.
To sort of sum up:
The onboard NICs are made by Broadcom, and are also used in HP Proliant =
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ervers (DL380 G3?)
Broadcom basically admitted the problem, and they have released a new =
dri=3D
ver
HP have admitted to the problem, developed their own driver, and it's =
bee=3D
n available for a while
Dell have released a new teaming driver for their onboard NICs. It sort =
o=3D
f misteriously apeared on their web site last week.
We know that NIC teaming with the onboard NICs has been a problem for =
som=3D
e time on these Dell servers, but Dell seem to have been very reluctant =
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o share this sort of information. We got as far as "oh yeah - I know =
what=3D
that is - disable the NIC teaming" with Dell tech support, but when =
pres=3D
sed, he escalated it to his supervisor, and there was something in there =
=3D
that Dell are not releasing to the public as we got no further. We =
weren'=3D
t too impressed with this...
So anyway, if you've got Dell servers (or HP servers) with these =
Boradcom=3D
NICs, try updating the drivers to the latest version.
Regards,
Jeremy Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
Sent: maandag 23 februari 2004 22:10
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and FR3
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And this is why I never do load balancing. I always use either
EtherChannel/PaGP/802.3ad or Adapter Failover.=3D20
Chris Lynch
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Beh=3D
alf
Of Rowlandson, John
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and FR3
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
www.mallesons.com
Confidential communication
if you can get reliable teaming with any dell BROADCOM 1GB nics them you =
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are doing better than us...they are the biggest piece of rubbish..
in standalone setup they are fine....
in adaptive load balancing it looks like they loose a route and then =
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nothing can go in or out, however the link stays up (not good with =
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0-80
users on a 1655mc blade :( _
jump on the cnsole and tracert to the gateway of the vlan and they fix =
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themselves up again
GRRRRR
John Rowlandson
Technical Support Specialist
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
Sydney
T +61 2 9296 3653
F +61 2 9296 3999
john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Thomas, Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 2:32 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and FR3
You don't say how big a farm you're planning, but...
Test, test and test again. 2003 is good. FR3 is good. Dell 2650 servers =
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a=3D3D3D re =3D3D3DE9"!$* but just about do the job (I bear a grudge =
against
anything =3D3D no=3D3D3D n HP/Compaq). Combine the lot with NIC teaming =
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onboard Dell =3D3D NIC=3D3D3D s, and you get capacity, performance and =
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ility
problems under a =3D3D mod=3D3D3D erate load.
Regards,
Jeremy Thomas
- -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Justin Martin
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:31 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Windows 2003 and FR3
What are the general thoughts on the combination of Windows 2003 server =
a=3D
nd
XP FR3 - safe for production? I am planning a new farm and was thinking
about sticking with 2000 or jumping to 2003.
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Justin
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