[THIN] Re: Windows 2003
- From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:34:27 -0500
Heh, let's not make them seem altruistic with it Joe. After all, they
charge a fair bit per license. Some people ended up paying through the nose
when they switched models. I'm sure they figured it was the best way for
them to make money or else we'd all still be paying per server :)
-Paul
> ----------
> From: Joe Shonk[SMTP:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:33 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
>
>
> Because everyone else wants to be like Microsoft... Microsoft paved the =
> way to stick in the shorts of the consumer. So other company think, =
> "Hey, if Microsoft can charge like that then I can to." Also, many =
> vendors still don't understand what 32-bits apps are let alone =
> understand the difference between Client/Server and SBC.
>
> Not every company is as arrogant. Citrix is uses a concurrent licensing =
> model for their products.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Monroe [mailto:Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:23 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
>
>
>
> Why are we just picking on MS about this type of licensing? What about =
> all
> the other PC software vendors who license per device?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheThin [mailto:TheThin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
>
>
>
> I still don't see what's wrong with concurrent user licensing for apps,
> TSCals, and the OS, except MS doesn't make enough money. It certainly
> would make managing licensing a lot easier.=3D20
>
> Since Citrix went to that model with MF, it is just so much simpler,
> rather than tracking server licenses and user licenses. MS could learn
> a lesson here and save us all a lot of time and trouble.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> Posted At: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:08 PM
> Posted To: TheThin
> Conversation: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
>
>
>
> Hey, I'm keen on named user TSCals. Given the number of different
> workstations my users hit (no matter how many times you tell them, they
> just don't grasp that they are burning a license!) it would be
> beneficial. Now if they'd adopt the same model for Office apps....
>
> -Paul
>
> > ----------
> > From: Allan Stephens[SMTP:algs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > Oh spirits of the ouija board - how shall we license our next=3D20
> > generation of Operating Systems?
> >=3D20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Kenzig" <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:46 AM
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > >
> > > All subject to change if the wind blows right and there is a =
> full=3D20
> > > moon
> > on
> > > the fourth Tuesday of the month. ; )
> > > Hey it is Wednesday after all.
> > > JK
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Stansel, Paul
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:39 AM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got off the phone from an extensive conversation about=3D20
> > > licensing with our sales reps. Here's what they told me.
> > >
> > > 1) If you buy Windows XP prior to April 24th with Software=3D20
> > > Assurance, you are covered for Sever 2003 CALs. After that and =
> you=3D20
> > > are
> > out.
> > >
> > > 2) There is an External Connection License that replaces the=3D20
> > > Internet Connector License. It is a per-server license, rather than
>
> > > the
> > Per
> > > User like the ICL.
> > >
> > > 3) Their opinion was that named user CALs and regular =
> per-device=3D20
> > > CALs would likely be priced the same. I'm still a bit dubious =
> of=3D20
> > > that
> > one,
> > > since it seems like a losing proposition for MS depending on =
> your=3D20
> > > setup.
> > >
> > > Anyway, just some interesting tidbits to pass along.
> > >
> > > -Paul
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