The feedback is coming straight from their checkbook! -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Posted At: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:34 PM Posted To: TheThin Conversation: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 I'd like to know where they are getting this customer feedback... Just = =3D about everyone I've ever meet thinks concurrent (per session) licensing =3D is the way to go for Terminal Services. Does 2k3 not offer = concurrent =3D licenses for regular client/server services... NT4.0/W2K offered =3D concurrent license or per seat. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:25 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 I love this: Q. <<...OLE_Obj...>> Why didn't you implement concurrent or Per Session TS licensing? It was included in Release Candidate 1(RC1)-why = =3D did you take it out?=3D09 <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> =3D09 A. <<...OLE_Obj...>> Per Session licensing was evaluated in the beta and RC1 pre-release versions of Terminal Server in Windows Server = =3D 2003. During the evaluation period, Microsoft received customer feedback that =3D Per Session was good, but that it was being used as a = substitute for Per =3D User licensing. In addition, Microsoft has received regular feedback that consistency in licensing should be a top priority. Windows Server 2003 =3D will offer user licensing in Windows Server 2003; therefore, user licensing =3D for Terminal Server is more consistent = with Windows Server, and is more in =3D line with the future direction of Microsoft licensing. =3D09 Sure... sure it is. -Paul > ---------- > From: Jim Powell[SMTP:jim.powell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:20 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 >=3D20 >=3D20 > Microsoft just posted the Windows Server 2003 Pricing: > =3D http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/pricing/default.mspx >=3D20 > And a long discussion of licensing under Windows Server 2003: =3D http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/default.ms > px >=3D20 > Jim Powell >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > Oh spirits of the ouija board - how shall we license our next=3D20 > generation of > > Operating Systems? > >=3D20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Kenzig" <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:46 AM > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 > >=3D20 > >=3D20 > > > > > > All subject to change if the wind blows right and there is a=20 > > > full=3D20 > moon on > > > the fourth Tuesday of the month. ; ) > > > Hey it is Wednesday after all. > > > JK > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > > Behalf Of Stansel, Paul > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:39 AM > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Just got off the phone from an extensive conversation about=20 > > > licensing with our sales reps. Here's what they told me. > > > > > > 1) If you buy Windows XP prior to April 24th with Software=20 > > > Assurance, you are covered for Sever 2003 CALs. After that and = =3D you=3D20 > are > > out. > > > > > > 2) There is an External Connection License that replaces the=20 > > > Internet Connector License. It is a per-server license, = rather=3D20 > than the > > Per > > > User like the ICL. > > > > > > 3) Their opinion was that named user CALs and regular per-device=20 > > > CALs would likely be priced the same. I'm still a bit dubious=20 > > > of=3D20 > that > > one, > > > since it seems like a losing proposition for MS depending on=20 > > > your=3D20 > setup. > > > > > > Anyway, just some interesting tidbits to pass along. > > > > > > -Paul > > > ********************************************************* > > > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > > > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > > > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services!=20 > > > http://www.thinprint.com > > > ********************************************************** > > > > > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:=20 > > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > > >=3D20 > > ********************************************************* > > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > > ********************************************************** > >=3D20 > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > >=3D20 > >=3D20 >=3D20 > --=3D20 >=3D20 > ********************************************************* > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** >=3D20 > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm >=3D20 ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm