I'd like to know where they are getting this customer feedback... Just = about everyone I've ever meet thinks concurrent (per session) licensing = is the way to go for Terminal Services. Does 2k3 not offer concurrent = licenses for regular client/server services... NT4.0/W2K offered = concurrent license or per seat. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:25 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 I love this: Q. <<...OLE_Obj...>> Why didn't you implement concurrent or Per Session TS licensing? It was included in Release Candidate 1(RC1)-why = did you take it out?=09 <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> =09 A. <<...OLE_Obj...>> Per Session licensing was evaluated in the beta and RC1 pre-release versions of Terminal Server in Windows Server = 2003. During the evaluation period, Microsoft received customer feedback that = Per Session was good, but that it was being used as a substitute for Per = User licensing. In addition, Microsoft has received regular feedback that consistency in licensing should be a top priority. Windows Server 2003 = will offer user licensing in Windows Server 2003; therefore, user licensing = for Terminal Server is more consistent with Windows Server, and is more in = line with the future direction of Microsoft licensing. =09 Sure... sure it is. -Paul > ---------- > From: Jim Powell[SMTP:jim.powell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:20 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 >=20 >=20 > Microsoft just posted the Windows Server 2003 Pricing: > = http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/pricing/default.mspx >=20 > And a long discussion of licensing under Windows Server 2003: > = http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/default.ms > px >=20 > Jim Powell >=20 > >=20 > > Oh spirits of the ouija board - how shall we license our next=20 > generation of > > Operating Systems? > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Kenzig" <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:46 AM > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 > >=20 > >=20 > > > > > > All subject to change if the wind blows right and there is a full=20 > moon on > > > the fourth Tuesday of the month. ; ) > > > Hey it is Wednesday after all. > > > JK > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > > Behalf Of Stansel, Paul > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:39 AM > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Just got off the phone from an extensive conversation about > > > licensing with our sales reps. Here's what they told me. > > > > > > 1) If you buy Windows XP prior to April 24th with Software > > > Assurance, you are covered for Sever 2003 CALs. After that and = you=20 > are > > out. > > > > > > 2) There is an External Connection License that replaces the > > > Internet Connector License. It is a per-server license, rather=20 > than the > > Per > > > User like the ICL. > > > > > > 3) Their opinion was that named user CALs and regular per-device > > > CALs would likely be priced the same. I'm still a bit dubious of=20 > that > > one, > > > since it seems like a losing proposition for MS depending on your=20 > setup. > > > > > > Anyway, just some interesting tidbits to pass along. > > > > > > -Paul > > > ********************************************************* > > > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > > > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > > > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! > > > http://www.thinprint.com > > > ********************************************************** > > > > > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > > >=20 > > ********************************************************* > > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! > > http://www.thinprint.com > > ********************************************************** > >=20 > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ********************************************************* > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! > http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** >=20 > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm >=20 ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm