=20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Since Citrix went to that model with MF, it is just so much simpler, = rather than tracking server licenses and user licenses. MS could learn = a lesson here and save us all a lot of time and trouble." See, that's your problem. You assume Microsoft wants to "save" your = money (and time does equal money). Just replace that word with SPEND = and you have it correct. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of TheThin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:22 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 I still don't see what's wrong with concurrent user licensing for apps, = TSCals, and the OS, except MS doesn't make enough money. It certainly = would make managing licensing a lot easier.=3D20 Since Citrix went to that model with MF, it is just so much simpler, = rather than tracking server licenses and user licenses. MS could learn = a lesson here and save us all a lot of time and trouble. - -----Original Message----- From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Posted At: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:08 PM Posted To: TheThin Conversation: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 Hey, I'm keen on named user TSCals. Given the number of different = workstations my users hit (no matter how many times you tell them, they = just don't grasp that they are burning a license!) it would be = beneficial. Now if they'd adopt the same model for Office apps.... - -Paul > ---------- > From: Allan Stephens[SMTP:algs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 >=3D20 >=3D20 > Oh spirits of the ouija board - how shall we license our next=3D20 =20 >generation of Operating Systems? =3D20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Kenzig" <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:46 AM > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 >=3D20 >=3D20 > > > > All subject to change if the wind blows right and there is a = full=3D20=20 > > moon > on > > the fourth Tuesday of the month. ; ) > > Hey it is Wednesday after all. > > JK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Stansel, Paul > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:39 AM > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 > > > > > > > > Just got off the phone from an extensive conversation about=3D20=20 > > licensing with our sales reps. Here's what they told me. > > > > 1) If you buy Windows XP prior to April 24th with Software=3D20=20 > > Assurance, you are covered for Sever 2003 CALs. After that and=20 > > you=3D20 are > out. > > > > 2) There is an External Connection License that replaces the=3D20=20 > > Internet Connector License. It is a per-server license, rather than > > the > Per > > User like the ICL. > > > > 3) Their opinion was that named user CALs and regular = per-device=3D20=20 > > CALs would likely be priced the same. I'm still a bit dubious = of=3D20=20 > > that > one, > > since it seems like a losing proposition for MS depending on = your=3D20=20 > > setup. > > > > Anyway, just some interesting tidbits to pass along. > > > > -Paul > > ********************************************************* > > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > > ********************************************************** > > > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:=3D20=20 > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > >=3D20 > ********************************************************* > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** >=3D20 > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: =20 >http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm >=3D20 ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: = http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: = http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 Comment: Public PGP key for Chris Lynch iQA/AwUBPmY17G9fg+xq5T3MEQIKGwCg63knlqvNeaS0t2T7UAwElneMTK8AoKXb 9PBKxJ8JrZwRMyQS5KItQl46 =3DLKk2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm