[THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
- From: "Mack, Rick" <RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:56:23 +1000
Hi Hector,
2000 to 2003 the profiles migrate cleanly, in both directions.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
tel +61 7 32467704
-----Original Message-----
From: Minero Hector B DLVA [mailto:MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 25 August 2003 11:04 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
How about profile migration from Windows 2000 to 2003?
Do they migrate cleanly or is it better to just give the users new profiles?
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Hector Minero
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:25 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
Hi Brian,
Unfortunately the comment you can run more users provided the hardware will
take it is too darn accurate. I've done a few upgrades to 2003 now, and a
lot of these have been done concurrently with application upgrades. That's a
little bit unfortunate because it makes the next comments a bit arguable.
My experience is that per-user memory utilisation has gone up, typically so
that to support the same number of users on a given box, you need about 20%
more memory after you've gone to 2003. Even with the same version of
applications, the memory footprint is larger. Per-user file association is
alive and well in 2003, but with an increase in the registry size footprint
(ntuser.dat from 1.8 to 2.5 MB). On the other hand the O.S. footprint is
down a bit, largely due to a leaner services list.
On the plus side, CPU utilization looks a lot better so provided you've got
enough memory, you really can put more users on a box. Pity about older
hardware though.
Regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
tel +61 7 32467704
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ]
Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2003 1:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
Hi Folks,
I've been doing a ton of work with 2003 recently, and I have to say that it
is a completely different OS than Win 2000. (duh!)
Seriously, there are a lot of changes under the hood.. One of the upsides of
this is that 2003 doesn't require anywhere near the tuning that 2000 did.
Here's a quick list of things that you had to worry about in 2000 that you
don't have to worry about in 2003:
(1) All things being equal, you will fit many more users on 2003 than on
2000 (as long as you don't hit a HW limit).
(2) 2003 has no maximum registry size.
(3) 2003 has twice the number of system PTEs as 2000. Enabling Terminal
Server automatically maxes out this number.
(4) RDP 5.2 (included in W2k3) is way way way smaller / thinner than RDP
5.1... We're talking 11k per second here..
As for tweaks:
(1) If you're using Xeon processors, go ahead and enable hyperthreading..
(Thanks to Tim Mangan's paper at Tmurgent.com for this tip!)
Hmm... I guess I don't have that many tweaks, but I just wanted to point out
that a lot of the Win2000 "tweaks" are included in 2003 by default.
Brian
Brian Madden
202.302.3657
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Dirk Blose
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Win 2003 Suggestions
Anyone compiled any suggestions for configuration settings yet for Windows
2003 server? We're getting started on a rebuild and I plan to use W2K3.
Thanks.
Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
Lead Technical Analyst
(919) 765-4791
dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx
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