[THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:39:15 -0500
I always like to kill them during a migration for a couple of reasons
1- its just plain cleaner and you know everyone is fresh
2- it's a great excuse and there is no better time. Migration and new
systems is the ONLY reason a user will generally put up with mass
changes
3
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:17 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
It's probably better to recreate the profiles if moving to a new
platform version. It shouldn't be too difficult as most of it is
redirected anyways... The rest of the profile is configured with scripts
during the user's first logon... If not, now is a good time to learn.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Minero Hector B DLVA
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:04 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
How about profile migration from Windows 2000 to 2003?
Do they migrate cleanly or is it better to just give the users new
profiles?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:25 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
Hi Brian,
Unfortunately the comment you can run more users provided the
hardware will take it is too darn accurate. I've done a few upgrades to
2003 now, and a lot of these have been done concurrently with
application upgrades. That's a little bit unfortunate because it makes
the next comments a bit arguable.
My experience is that per-user memory utilisation has gone up,
typically so that to support the same number of users on a given box,
you need about 20% more memory after you've gone to 2003. Even with the
same version of applications, the memory footprint is larger. Per-user
file association is alive and well in 2003, but with an increase in the
registry size footprint (ntuser.dat from 1.8 to 2.5 MB). On the other
hand the O.S. footprint is down a bit, largely due to a leaner services
list.
On the plus side, CPU utilization looks a lot better so provided
you've got enough memory, you really can put more users on a box. Pity
about older hardware though.
Regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2003 1:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Win 2003 Suggestions
Hi Folks,
I've been doing a ton of work with 2003 recently, and I have to
say that it is a completely different OS than Win 2000. (duh!)
Seriously, there are a lot of changes under the hood.. One of
the upsides of this is that 2003 doesn't require anywhere near the
tuning that 2000 did. Here's a quick list of things that you had to
worry about in 2000 that you don't have to worry about in 2003:
(1) All things being equal, you will fit many more users on 2003
than on 2000 (as long as you don't hit a HW limit).
(2) 2003 has no maximum registry size.
(3) 2003 has twice the number of system PTEs as 2000. Enabling
Terminal Server automatically maxes out this number.
(4) RDP 5.2 (included in W2k3) is way way way smaller / thinner
than RDP 5.1... We're talking 11k per second here..
As for tweaks:
(1) If you're using Xeon processors, go ahead and enable
hyperthreading.. (Thanks to Tim Mangan's paper at Tmurgent.com for this
tip!)
Hmm... I guess I don't have that many tweaks, but I just wanted
to point out that a lot of the Win2000 "tweaks" are included in 2003 by
default.
Brian
Brian Madden
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dirk Blose
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Win 2003 Suggestions
Anyone compiled any suggestions for configuration settings yet
for Windows 2003 server? We're getting started on a rebuild and I plan
to use W2K3.
Thanks.
Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
Lead Technical Analyst
(919) 765-4791
dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx
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