Thanks Jeff, One question, when I open the printer folder all I see are teh autocreated printers. We install network printers then delete them after the install. How else could I remove all the drivers and start from scratch? Well besides rebuilding the servers. -Christine Christine N. Allen Systems Engineer BMC HealthNet Plan 2 Copley Place Boston, MA 02116 617-748-6034 617-293-4407 Christine.Allen@xxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:47 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Wfshell.exe crashing You'll have to go through and test the drivers. The first place to start is to make sure you have no kernel mode drivers installed. Open printers and faxes and the select File, Server properties, then drivers tab. Make sure none say NT4. Then remove any multi-function drivers and remap them to known good drivers (generic HP drivers are best for testing). If none of that works, then you have to start over and test each driver for compatibility. There are also documents on Citrix and HP's website that describe exact versions that work with terminal services. Other vendors have this as well but definately not all. You can also use http://www.printingsupport.com to find compatible drivers so you can use driver remapping. Jeff Pitsch Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server Forums not enough? Get support from the experts at your business http://jeffpitschconsulting.com On 5/12/06, Christine Allen <Christine.Allen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: We have 48 printers. I reinstalled some original printers trying to fix the issue but it did not work. I was on maturity leave when this started happening. -Christine Christine N. Allen Systems Engineer BMC HealthNet Plan 2 Copley Place Boston, MA 02216 617-748-6034 617-293-4407 ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Pavlo Ignatusha Sent: Fri 5/12/2006 8:27 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Wfshell.exe crashing Christine, I always was able to trace it back to a printer driver installed recently. How many print drivers are on the servers? Thanks, Pavlo Ignatusha Systems Network Coordinator Pembroke Regional Hospital tel. +1 (613) 732-3675 ext.6150 fax. +1 (613) 732-9986 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Christine Allen Sent: May 12, 2006 8:19 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Wfshell.exe crashing Hello, I'm running a 7 server xpa fr3 farm on windows 2000 sp4. Over the past few weeks the wfshell has been crashing. However, it seems it has been crashing during a session and not at logon. No updates have been installed lately. Any help is appreciated. -Christine Christine N. Allen Systems Engineer BMC HealthNet Plan 2 Copley Place Boston, MA 02216 617-748-6034 617-293-4407 ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ -- The information in this email belongs to the Pembroke Regional Hospital and may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the individual or organization to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of the contents of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************