I am going to go way off topic here, but the people on this list will probably have some interesting thoughts on this... (/RantOn) First, let me say I am a republican and generally a believer in small government. Like most people who use the Net though, I am getting tired of the lack of control and abuse that occurs on the internet. Even if you don't count the dollars spent preventing or tracking abuse, the emotional toll of just dealing with the idiocy that occurs has to be huge (I know it drives me crazy). The question is how to bring government and regulation into the Internet without squelching the openness that has driven it's growth, and stimulated the ingenuity of countless people and industries. Like most people I don't want regulation or censorship on the net (except for when I want it), like in regards to this ebay scam. Or those guys over in Nigeria trying to send money to the US or wherever... When I look around I see one Government agency that I could trust and I believe could generally help out with this situation. This may seem out of left field (hold onto your hats here), but of all entities it is the US Postal Service. Not only am I not worried about them reading my email, after-all they could read my personal mail if they wanted to today (and I trust them not to), they have a long history of dependable service (alright dependable might be a bit of a stretch). Why not have a national email system that could be regulated? The Postal Service alread has an inspection/enforcement body, and the same laws that apply to mail fraud could easily be extended to email. And the enforcement body already exists. Afterall, two things I learned from watching old gangster movies as a kid were you don't mess with the IRS or the Postal Service. They got Capone for tax fraud, and I think it was Dillinger for mail fraud. Both went away essentially for life. =20 If the Postal Service issued everyone with a SSN (or tax payer ID) an email address, it would allow them to extend mail fraud laws to email, and begin enforcing them. With the type of repercussions that mail fraud brings, hopefully many spammers etc. would not abuse the system. And of course having a centralized investigative service would allow them to go after the big abusers easily. Tracking emails really isn't that hard if you have the resources. =20 I know there would be a lot of issues, privacy etc. but if the Postal Service went with open standards, POP/SMTP etc. it should be workable. Few people encrypt their email today, and most who do, do it on the client so even this wouldn't be a problem. And of course it could be funded just like mail service, unlimited receive capability, and a minimal send fee. How about $0.000034 per email?. The send fee alone would cut spammers off at the knees. I know if I had a mail box that wasn't full of junk mail, and I had an avenue of some recourse against the senders, I would use that mailbox. And of course in the end, it would be elective. If you don't want to use it, use a different mail box from your ISP. It's there so you could in theory receive clean, clear, email or go walk on the wild side if you choose with a private box. So it should not affect the openess of the internet at large. Last, this could be done relatively cheaply, we're sending 15 Billion (with a B) to Africa after all. It would be self-funding in the long run, and would provide everyone with a unique ID that was designed to be distributed. So maybe we would stop giving out our SSNs to everyone. Allright, I'm done. And will take this over to a political forum (but the Ebay thing prompted me to think about it). Sorry to have wasted your time. (/RantOFF) -Brian Politis ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale TScale increases terminal server capacity. Get 30-40% more users per server to save $$$ and time. Add users now! - not more servers. If you?re using Citrix, you must learn about TScale! Free 30-day eval: http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=79 ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm