Nick, I use WINS a lot because I support Win9X clients and we have them in different VLAN/subnet from Citrix servers. Basically if you can ping your logon server by netbios name your WINS is up and running fine. If this is the case you have to look at the last few patches you put if they affect or raise logon requrements. Thanks, Pavlo Ignatusha Systems and Network Coordinator Pembroke General Hospital Tel. (613) 732-3675 ext.6150 Fax. (613) 732-9986 www.pemgenhos.org "All that matters is love and work" - Sigmund Freud. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robinson, Nick Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:31 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] WINS I am having trouble with my WINS. I have a 2000 environment and all my users except for 2 run XP. The other 2 runs 98. The trouble I'm having is I don't see the users in network places anymore and the 2 users that run 98 can't login or connect to the server. Nothing was added except the latest windows updates. Any ideas other than wiping WINS and maybe starting over. BTW- does everyone here use WINS? Nick