We used to see this intermittently as well any time or day as well. We had two farms with WI pointing at both of them. PS this was WI2 and WI3. WI2 did a complete hang whilst WI3 behaves as you described Basically one of the farms was screwing up. Restarting the XML always fixed the problem. (sometimes we did IMA as well as it was shagged) Once we removed the misbehaving farm the issue went away. I would normally point WI at your Data Collectors if they are dedicated. Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niclas Nordin Sent: 18 January 2006 10:03 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI4 pauses Roger, this is an internal farm so there are no firewalls to pass. The integrated firewall function on the server isn't activated either. The WI and the Farm are on the same subnet as well. Last time this happened I checked my farm and even the eventlogs for every server around that time, all servers were up and no evidece of reboots in the logs. Malcolm, we have sheduled reboots on sundays and as far as we can see this pause issue can happen any day. Will try setting up dedicated datacollectors and point the WI to them instead but I dont think this is a performance issue since Ive noticed this behavior in first person even during the night with very few users logged on, less than 10 per server. So noone else have seen this on their WI4? Regards, Niclas "BRUTON, Malcolm, FM" <Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx> wrote: I'd be checking the XML Service on your Data collectors that WI points at. Try a restart on them and see if issue still exists. Malcolm ----- Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: 17 January 2006 14:41 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI4 pauses Possible connectivity issues to XML on the Citrix servers? Have you checked your firewall logs? Are all of your Citrix servers up when this happens? Good luck, Roger Riggins Network Administrator Lutheran Services in Iowa w: 319.859.3543 c: 319.290.5687 http://www.lsiowa.org <http://www.lsiowa.org/> -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niclas Nordin Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:37 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] WI4 pauses Hi list, we have noticed a thing about our webserver. From time to time when You log onto the WI it can take up to a minute before our publications are shown. Internet explorer just displays a white page and says "done" so its not like its loading. 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