From memory I dont believe Riverbed accelerators dont support Citrix ICA type protocols due to the way they work. We had a riverbed consultant here the other day talking about them and he advised forget it if you want to use ICA over it, it just passes is through. the Riverbed Accelerators are more of a disassembler/assembler and do pattern matching on the traffic comming through then reconstruct the traffic at the recieving end. They work very well on normal streaming type data such as SMB, SQL etc but for other traffic such as ICA apparently it just passes it through and cant do anything with it. T. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Robert K Coffman Jr - Info From Data Sent: Tue 19/09/2006 1:05 a.m. To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WAN Accelerators and WAN Accelerators with CItrix Timely topic. I just found out that we are installing Riverbed Accelerators. Anyone using these? - Bob Coffman -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WAN Accelerators and WAN Accelerators with CItrix Which product are you looking at? Expand, for example, claims 300%-400% acceleration for ICA traffic. Some Citrix SEs are seeing a slight bump in performance by piping ICA traffic through the NetScaler... No word on WanScaler yet. Joe ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Parr Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 9:29 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] WAN Accelerators and WAN Accelerators with CItrix Is anyone familiar with WAN Accelerators? One of our network engineers is going to begin testing this out. We have offices in North America and overseas in Europe. I can understand why he would want to use something like this. However because we already use Citrix for most of our overseas remote access I am doubting if perhaps the 2 technologies will play together nicely or at all and perhaps even confilct. If ICA packets are already wrapped, efficient and without real data being passed across the WAN because only mouse and key strokes as well as screenupdates are being passed I don't see how a WAN accelerator will do much for us. There may be some need to directly access intranet or some direct file access outside of Citrix in which case the WAN Accelerator concept would make sense via the specialized caching of data being employed by this new technology. How have people found the performance of WAN Accelerators as well as stability and other issues that may be occuring? And will there be issues for ICA packets being "accelerated" or as with packetshaping would special priorities and exceptions have to be made? Steve Parr Systems Analyst This e-mail is intended only for the party to whom it is addressed, and may contain information which is privileged or confidential. Without the sender's authorization, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and the information it contains is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me immediately by return e-mail and please delete this e-mail from your system. www.dbrs.com, Dominion Bond Rating Service Limited, Dominion Bond Rating Service, Inc., DBRS (Europe) Limited.