Yah, you have told me that idea before and it is a killer one... Maybe I will do that... great idea... But, I don't want too. I want them to run natively.. :) but.. i think i will try that.... I will get the latest beta of Longhorn so I can completely run buggy beta stuff and just feel cool... ;) hahahah Thanks Steve, How come you are always right? From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:13 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! Doug, Why don't you run a VM of server 2003/PS and publish 32 bit apps to yourself J Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:10 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! I'm running Vista 64 bit now on a Quad Core 2.66 XEON and 8GB Ram and a Nvidia 8800 GTX video card. I love it! but... 1. I agree with the fact that it is hard to find things but I will get use to it over time. 2. Not happy that the 32 bit OS only support 4 GB ram. I'm running 8GB RAM and my box is upgradable to 64 so there is no way I'm going back to 4GB so I can get better driver support and application support. 3. Drivers, Drivers, Drives. 64 bit vista drivers need to be signed and also Microsoft is not pushing their partners on the 64 bit issues, as I've been told. This being said, I'm still waiting for the Nvidia RTM of its vista driver. I did manage to find that someone released their beta driver but I have problems with it and the Vista power management. It just locks the box up when the screens are turned off. Sort of sucks.. But, I hope they will have that fixed in the RTM driver. I also have a SETA RAID controller but there are no drivers for it and they don't promise any until end of Q1. That totally sucks as my 1.5TB worth of drivers are sitting on my desk collecting dust. Sort of a bummer... 4. App support: I'm not able to make Camtasia work as it gives me errors loading some of their 32 bit dlls and I've had the problem with other apps too. I guess this is what Microsoft calls, "craplets?" or is that term reserved for AOL? I don't know but it does not like everything I want to do. Other than that.. on my quad core it flies! I really like it! I just want drivers and apps to work but that is up to the vendors to get on board, not Microsoft. Anyhoo.. my two cents.... Now for Server 2007 to ship... App publishing on TS.. YAH BABY!!! DB From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Malcolm Bruton Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:43 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! Using it now on home PC. Seems OK. Hard to find stuff. Annoyed with the fact that I have an upgrade license. This means you can't load it fresh and then activate. You have to have XP installed and then do an upgrade where it renames your windows to windows.old I thought I'd managed to do this by not entering a code during install and now when I try and activate it say that my key is upgrade only. Annoyed with that as I will have to trash box and install XP just to install Vista. 29 days and counting till I must activate. Can't get drivers for everything including Microsoft hardware !!! Just need to give it a bit of time I think. I agree with Joe that stuff is hidden away. Haven't tested all my apps yet but no doubt half of them won't work and will require an upgrade....Once the vendors are up to speed I think it will all be good. It certainly has some eye candy to look at. malcolm From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: 19 January 2007 19:31 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! For those of you supporting fat client, how has your Vista testing been going? Ours have not been so positive. A few of my help desk guys having been playing around with Vista on some brand new dell OptiPlex 745's we have. Clean XP load, using all Dell supplied Vista drivers where necessary. Office 2003 SP2. As long as they keep it as basic as that, things work OK, but once you start trying to play around, things go south. One guy tried to install a new video driver (Vista certified) and it crashed the box so bad it had to be reloaded. Another guy tried to use UltraMon and it crashed that box so bad it had to be reloaded. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:37 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! I went to the one in Phoenix (Wednesday) and it was a mad house. There had to have been 3000+ people there. FWIW: If you do go, MS will make you stay for lunch if you're want a free copy office. Overall, it was ok, nothing specially.. I will say, that after installing Vista and Office on my Laptop, I am convinced that Microsoft hates geeks. It is by far the most unintuitive interface I've ever used. It took hours to find and tweak the settings on this thing (to something usable and visually appealing) in addition they took away so of the good features of XP (I am going to sorely miss my run history). Anyone on know of any good Linux distro with seamless integration of a GUI and samba client? I tried Unbuntu, it's ok but still looking something better. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:32 AM To: vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; THIN Subject: [THIN] Re: Vista is Coming! Oh and I forgot to mention.. those that Attend get a Free Copy of Office 2007 and Vista! JK On 1/10/07, Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com < jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Hi Folks, I wanted to remind you all that Microsoft is having a Mega Launch Event of Vista/Office 2007 across America on January 23 if a few weeks as a prelaunch for the January 30th release. You can now sign up for this event and it is not one to be missed! SEE http://www.microsoft.com/business/launch2007/signup/default.mspx And just for fun here are some Vista links to keep you busy.. Windows Vista - What You Need To Know (PC Magazine) http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,1874,1786052,00.asp Why You Don't Need Vista Now (Wired News) http://www.wired.com/news/culture/reviews/0,72295-0.html?tw=rss.index Q&A with Microsoft about Windows Vista (Lifehacker) http://www.lifehacker.com/software/vista/qa-with-microsoft-about-windows -vista-220986.php How Windows Vista Will Affect Government Information (Free Government Information) A href=" http://freegovinfo.info/node/833 <http://freegovinfo.info/node/833> -- Jim Kenzig Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services http://www.thinhelp.com Citrix Technology Professional Provision Networks VIP CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Blog: http://www.techblink.com -- Jim Kenzig Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services http://www.thinhelp.com Citrix Technology Professional Provision Networks VIP CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Blog: http://www.techblink.com