[THIN] Re: VMware & CPS 4.5
- From: "Malcolm Bruton" <malcolm.bruton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:00:53 -0500
Jon
Silly question but why would you just not run the apps natively on the
box instead and isolate instead if you have app co-existence issues?
Seems like you could fit more users on again?
We have taken the decision to use VMWare for small apps (where we can't
isolate) of low user numbers but typically only dev as we don't believe
it scales as well on VMware for heavily used prod servers.
Malcolm
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jon Luchette
Sent: 01 February 2008 14:53
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMware & CPS 4.5
I just set it up for a customer in a production environment: 2 HP DL380
G5 boxes, with dual quad core CPU's and 16 GB RAM, backended with an HP
EVA 4000 FC SAN. We have 3 PS 4.5 virtual machines on each host getting
20 users on each vm comfortably. They have a pretty heavy application
load too (Oracle, Lotus Notes, etc...) and they are publishing full
desktops to all users on WYSE SX10 thin clients. We did bring DRS
automation down to manual. All in all, so far so good!
HTH,
-Jon
On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Chris White <Chris.White@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thanks for everyone's help/advice on this, most helpful.
Cheers,
Chris
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: Thu 31/01/2008 18:34
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMware & CPS 4.5
Our current production CTX environment = MPS 4.0, Win2k3 sp2 hosts on
VMware ESX 3.5.
Our standard VM build has 2 procs, 3gb ram and we average about 45+ user
connections per host. Our environment is published app based, which lets
us spread the load around a bit better, no full desktop. Physical boxes
running VMware are HP blades, 16gb ram, 4 proc. Dependant on app load
and usage, (we silo off the heavy use stuff) your mileage may vary.
That link Greg sent has some good recommendations; from my own
experience:
- the vmware tools install by default adds a component into user
profiles "hgfs.dat" which can be a pain to deal with. (greg's article
covered this). Sort out how to handle this before allowing users to
login.
- Use manual DRS automation if you have a Citrix specific cluster setup
in your ESX environment. Automated DRS vmotion during production hours
with dozens of users connected can hang up a VM.
We have virtual MPS 4.5 boxes in testing, but I can't say we've put any
serious user load on them yet.
HTH
Lan
On Jan 31, 2008 7:07 AM, Kelsey, John <JCKelsey@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
We tried it in an ESX 2.5 environment and the performace was horrible.
Supposedly its been greatly improved in an ESX 3 environment but we
haven't gotten back to try it yet.
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris White
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 08:58
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] VMware & CPS 4.5
Hi,
I've a customer who wants to run CPS 4.5 in a VMware ESX environment.
This will be for production.
Has anyone set this up in a live environment before? I've only ever set
it up for a dev environment. Any tips or recommendations? Should I
discourage them for doing this and use straight tin instead?
Thanks for any help,
Chris.
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