[THIN] Re: VDA License required for XP Pro
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:05:08 -0700
In any case, it will be cheaper to upgrade those Licenses to SA than it
would be to purchase a VDA license.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Russell Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VDA License required for XP Pro
Hi Andrew
Thanks for the reply.
This just shows the mess that MS licensing is in.
Let's ignore the FPP as that doesn't count and I'm expecting to be able to
assign a Win 7 license from Select to the thin clients. The client have
already purchased Windows 7 via Select so it's a sunk cost.
Key query here is; "do I need a VDA license for XP Pro"? I'm hoping not and
that it's only a requirement for Windows 7.
Cheers
Russell
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andrew Wood
Sent: 11 April 2011 23:33
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VDA License required for XP Pro
Russell,
Windows 7 Professional, Windows Vista Business or windows XP Professional
obtained through a Volume License upgrade, when purchased on top of a
qualifying operating system license (i.e. for their existing PCs) has all
the limitations of a full packaged product (FPP) license.
FPP can be used for VDI if:
1) The physical server on which the virtual desktop is installed is
assigned to 1 user. This is obviously nuts, but it is legal.
2) You assign a FPP to a device, and you use that device to access to
the VM *under the condition that* you don't move that VM around. It can only
be present on 1 server. So - no vmotion/xenmotion or load balancing. So -
for every device that has an OEM windows license that you've "upgraded"
with your volume license that counts as 1 license to access a VM, but that
VM can only go on 1 server.
So - for your PCs, you could leave them as is with these caveats above -
point 2 is important. You might consider that OK; you might only have 1 main
server or accept that each user's VM will only be available from 1 server.
Each of the thin clients (as they don't have an OEM license assigned) needs
to have a VDA license. As does any corporate smartphone/tablet. Bear in mind
your VDA license is a cost per device, per year.
You may consider that pt 2) is a PITA - you can solve that by getting SA for
those VLs. With VDA & SA you get (drum roll Animal please.)
. Install Windows 7/Windows Vista/Windows XP virtual machines on any
combination of hardware and storage
. Unlimited movement between servers and storage
. Access corporate desktop images from non-corporate owned
Windows-based PCs (home use, but not those deluded Mac users. splitters)
. The primary user of a Windows VDA device has extended roaming
rights, which means that the Punter can access their VDI desktop from any
device outside of the corporate environment, such as a home PC or an
internet kiosk (even if they have a Mac)
. Eligibility for other Software Assurance products, such as MDOP
and Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs
. Single Windows VDA license allows concurrent access for up to 4
VMs
. Reassignment rights to another device after 90 days, or in the
case of end-point failure
. Dynamic desktop licensing enabled through KMS/MAK activation &
indeed, access to Enterprise versions of Windows.
. Unlimited backups of both running and stored VMs (woo)
. Includes Software Assurance (SA) benefits such as 24x7 call
support, training vouchers, trips to disney land*, rocket ships to mars*
etc.
Note the "outside of the corporate environment" - a roaming license lets
your punter use their VDA/SA license to access their desktop from their
tablet/smartphone *until they bring it into the office* - then it needs a
license. Again, nuts - but Be Aware.
Links?
Licensing Windows for Virtual Desktops Whitepaper:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t
<http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%
2F%2Fdownload.microsoft.com%2Fdownload%2FC%2F6%2F7%2FC673E444-6DDD-40B8-B29F
-625354F2A8F7%2FLicensing_Windows_for_Virtual_Desktops_Whitepaper.pdf&ei=JH2
jTaD5BcOxhAez2dz1BA&usg=AFQjCNFVSHX_5GZICVF8-ceOdEdNasKWFg>
&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.microsoft.com%2Fdow
nload%2FC%2F6%2F7%2FC673E444-6DDD-40B8-B29F-625354F2A8F7%2FLicensing_Windows
_for_Virtual_Desktops_Whitepaper.pdf&ei=JH2jTaD5BcOxhAez2dz1BA&usg=AFQjCNFVS
HX_5GZICVF8-ceOdEdNasKWFg
Licensing VDI for Microsoft Desktops - is it rocket science?
http://www.virtualizationpractice.com/blog/?p=9389
Applications and OS Licensing: Remote Access and Roaming Use:
http://tonymackelworth.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/applications-and-os-licensin
g-remote-access-and-roaming-use/
hth
. * these items may not be true but could be added once MS run out
of ideas.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Russell Robertson
Sent: 11 April 2011 20:20
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] VDA License required for XP Pro
Hello
I have a client who is looking at rolling out XP via XD5. My query is, do
they need a VDA license for XP Pro? It would be delivered to both desktops
PCs and thin clients. The client has Windows 7 via Select Agreement. No SA.
They don't want to roll out Win 7 yet due to app compatibility so that's not
an option.
Anyone done this already? Pointers to MS documents would be great.
Thanks
Russell
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