[THIN] Re: User logon issues since applying SP4 and SecurityUpdate

  • From: "email" <work@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:07:26 -0400

M$ is charging for the Q824309 fix.  Has anybody purchased/implemented
this fix successfully?
Has FR3 fixed anyone's probs with SP4?

J


>>> jeanne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 8/7/2003 6:09:29 PM >>>
Lots of issues in the Citrix Enterprise after SP4 - here are some of
the MS
fixes you're looking for...
Q824309 for slow logins in Citrix
Q327462 lost profiles in Citrix

These are the issues documented to date:

1. IPSEC policies may stop functioning/ get removed.

2. Slow logons from Citrix ICA sessions

3. Slow Logons from RDP sessions

4. Applications will not or are slow to close on logout. a. (possible
apply
a script)

5. If installed after the Novell Client, you may need a local
administrator
account to log in and re-add the machine to the domain.

6. usrlogon.cmd may stop running

7. Mail relay settings may change, if your server is sending mail this
setting may have to be reset in the MMC

8. Web Interface (NFuse) 1.6 (and other versions) sites may have read
permissions set. Users need script execute permissions.

9. Apparently there is an issue related to Microsoft Windows 2000
Service
Pack 4 and the Citrix ctxnotif.dll. During the logoff process, the
ctxnotif.dll deletes the printers. The process hangs (which is
probably
responsible for the longer logoff times) and only has time to delete
the
second printer if at all before the winlogon closes all running
processes
and logs you off. The script at
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/autoendtasks 
may help logoff issues/ speed.

10. Associated with #9 above- Printers not deleting on logoff.

11. Reported issues with the ability to access / authenticate when
using
samba as a domain controller. Samba 2.2.8a release contains a security
fixes
and new features/ settings that supports a new setting: profile acls
(S)
which is a workaround for issue with WinXP Service Pack 1 and roaming
user
profiles. Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 appears to exhibit the same
behavior.

12. Error when attempting to shadow from Management Console for
MetaFrame
XP.

13. Cannot reset sessions from Management Console for MetaFrame XP,
display
as down state but return to active upon refresh.

14. Changing print drivers and/ or re-installing Feature Release 3 seem
to
possibly fix issues.

15. Microsoft is in process of replacing the Winsrv.dll. You may be
able to
get a copy if you contact Microsoft support and open a case. The
hopefully
soon to be released q article is:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=824309 

16. Indexing Service, turn off the indexing service before installing.

17. temporary install files may not be completely removed.

18. 3rd party SCSI card drivers (Dell) may be overwritten.

19. Errors on open of SQL 2000 Enterprise Manager

20. Slow reboots

21. asp_wp.exe used in asp.net failed to execute.

22. Update JVM to version 3810 BEFORE Service Pack 4.

23. Novell client 4.83SP1 stops logging into the tree. User must log
into
windows then log into the tree. (rat note: reinstall the Novell client
may
correct this)

24. May cause RightFax Enterprise Fax Manager to fail.

25. may not be compatible with Microsoft urlscan.

26. Cannot connet via socks-proxy to Microsoft Proxy server

27. Cannot connect to SQL

28. cannot shutdown

29. May increase processor utilization of OWA processes.

30. Can conflict with Virus scan

31. Can conflict with System works

32. Can remove net meeting settings

33. Exchage 2000 system attendant error / won't start.

34. May conflict with TN3270 emulation

Update: 03 Jul 11
User Policies Are Not Applied When You Log On to a Computer That Is
Running
Windows 2000 SP4
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q823862 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;823862 

If you are using cross forest logon script, this functionality must be
enabled in a service pack 4 environment.


1. IPSEC policies may stop functioning/ get removed.

2. Slow logons from Citrix ICA sessions
http://tokeshi.com/raturl/ctxlogonfr3sp4 The the Citrix Forums indicate
that
the slow logons are associated with the printer issues. Either running
the
published application without the printers, setting the app to start
before
printers are mapped or deleting client printers can correct this
behavior.
Posts also indicate that installation of Citrix MetaFrame XP FR3/
SP3 after Windows 2000 SP4 will correct the print/ logon issue.

3. Slow Logons from RDP sessions

4. Applications will not or are slow to close on logout.
a. (possible apply a script)

5. If installed after the Novell Client, you may need a local
administrator
account to log in and re-add the machine to the domain.

6. usrlogon.cmd may stop running

7. Mail relay settings may change, if your server is sending mail this
setting may have to be reset in the MMC

8. Web Interface (NFuse) 1.6 (and other versions) sites may have read
permissions set. Users need script execute permissions.

9. Apparently there is an issue related to Microsoft Windows 2000
Service
Pack 4 and the Citrix ctxnotif.dll. During the logoff process, the
ctxnotif.dll deletes the printers. The process hangs (which is
probably
responsible for the longer logoff times) and only has time to delete
the
second printer if at all before the winlogon closes all running
processes
and logs you off. The script at
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/autoendtasks 
may help logoff issues/ speed.

Heap Manager Change in Service Pack 4 and Windows 2000 Q article:
195008
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q195008 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];195008 


Application Access Violation or Hang After Applying SP4 Q article:
195009
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q195009 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];195009 


Updated USB 2.0 Drivers Are Available in Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
(SP4) Q
article: 819332 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q819332 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];819332 


HTTP Indexing Service Object Is Not Listed in the Performance Monitor
Counters Q article: 821892 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q821892 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];821892 


AWE Hardware Compatibility Test Is Unsuccessful After You Install
Windows
2000 SP4 Q article: 822140 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q822140 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];822140 


"Certificate Services Did Not Start" Message Appears in the Event Log
Even
Though the Certificate Services Component Starts Successfully Q
article:
822626 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q822626 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];822626 


Several Remote Access Service Error Events Appear After You Upgrade to
Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Q article: 823405
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q823405 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];823405 


Scheduled Tasks No Longer Run When You Remove Windows 2000 Service Pack
4 Q
article: 823441 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q823441 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];823441 


Release Notes for Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Q article: 813432
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q813432 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];813432 


INFO: Windows Media Tools 4.1 Not Available in Windows 2000 Service
Pack 4
and Later Versions Q article: 819758
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q819758 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];819758 


XADM: The Key Management Service Does Not Start After You Install
Windows
2000 Service Pack 4 Q article: 818952
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q818952 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];818952 


Frequently Asked Questions About the Microsoft VM and Windows 2000
Service
Pack 4 Q article: 820101 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q820101 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];820101 


Recommended Space Requirements for Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
Installation
Q article: 821258 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q821258 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];821258 

Overview of the "Impersonate a Client After Authentication" and the
"Create
Global Objects" Security Settings (821546.KB.EN-US.2.2) Q article:
821456
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q821546 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];821546 


Cannot Install Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 on a Computer Where the
Hummingbird NFS Maestro Client Program Is Installed Q article: 822217
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q822217 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];822217 


Some Windows 2000 Hotfixes May Cause a Conflict with Service Pack 4
for
Windows 2000 Q article: 822384 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q822384 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];822384 


Internet Explorer Times Out While It Loads Web Pages If Norton
Internet
Security 2001 or Norton Personal Firewall 2001 Is Installed Q article:
823087 http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q823087 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];823087 


Errors Occur When You Use a .NET Framework 1.0-Based Program on a
Windows
2000 Service Pack 4-Based Terminal Server Q article: 823485
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q823485 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];823485 
Solution: update to .NET Framework 1.1

Terminal Server and Connected Terminal Services Clients Pause When a
Terminal Services Client Logs On or Logs Off Q article: 324446
http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q324446 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=324446 

Problems When More Than One User Accesses the Same File Through
Terminal
Services http://www.tokeshi.com/raturl/Q818528 Q article: 818528
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=818528 Solution: after
using
the Micrsoft Hotfix to replace the mrxsmb.sys and the rdbss.sys modify
this
registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\MRxSmb\Parameters
REG_DWORD: MultiUserEnabled Value 1

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of LDeFoor
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] User logon issues since applying SP4 and Security
Update


I am having some very strange issues since I applied SP4 and the
"Security"
update from MS.

First, the configuration:
1 - Windows 2000 Server (for data and such)
2 - Windows 2000 Servers Terminal Server with Citrix load balanced
1 - Farm with PN published for full desktop

A user goes to login and after a VERY long waiting period - about 3
minutes
of
Applying Personal Settings... Receives the error message:
Windows did not load your roaming profile and is attempting to log on
with
your
local profile.  Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server
when
you
log off.  Windows did not load your profile because a server copy of
the
profile
already exists that does not have the correct security.  Either the
current
user
or the Administrator's group must be the owner of the folder.  Contact
your
network administrator.  (with an OK button).  Click OK and then this
message
comes up.

Windows can not find the local profile and is logging you on with a
temporary
profile.  Changes you make to this profile will be lost when you log
off.
(With
an OK button).

Click OK, then there is a VERY long wait - sometimes up to 7 minutes
of
APPLYING
PERSONAL SETTINGS, then one of two things happen.  The screen goes
totally
BLUE
for about 5 more minutes then logs in, OR it logs in.

This doesn't happen to All users, ONLY some.

Then what is even stranger - for those users it does happen to, depends
on
what
machine they are on as to what exactly happens.  I have a user that CAN
ONLY
log
on to my second server.  When he does, he only gets the FIRST error
message,
not
the second.  BUT, goes to try to log onto to the first server and gets
both
and
doesn't let him in.  It gives him the second message but with an added
ACCESS
DENIED in the window.

User gets in and works totally fine the rest of the day, but then goes
to
log
off and the Saving Settings appears for a LONG time and/or the screen
goes
to
total BLUE for a long time?

Nothing has changed on the servers except the SP4 and Security Update.


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