But to be clear, Webster is spot on when it comes to how ugly Joe is. I missed the original question though. Something about windows 2008? :^) We should start talking about a get together at synergy soon too On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Perhaps I should explain. Most of us know each other off list too so we kid around one in a while. Honestly I don't have an answer for Paul. Most of our customers have ditch Windows 2008. It's the Vista version for server. I avoid it like the plague. Joe Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Aljets, Paul" <PAljets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Not at all J As for your email to me, I just looked over my inbox and I don’t find one from you.. Perhaps it got caught in my SPAM filter? *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Dan Dill *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:18 PM *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" Hey Paul, Maybe I’m being a troll but I emailed you privately in regards to a thread you started about a profile cleanup script and never heard back from you (seems like it’s pretty easy to copy/paste into an email was my thought). I had shared what little I had to contribute and hoped that helped you find a solution and also might improve my solution at the same time. That’s the point of these lists right? They’re ideally a two way street, sharing of information, kum-by-ya and all?? Of course the level of obligation to a list is exactly zero so whatever. However if you were expecting a solution from someone else on the list and were hinting at disappointment with a statement like this: “Two replies from the most knowledgeable guys I know and you’ve never seen this issue before? J “ Then I really don’t feel bad for you. J Cheers, *Dan Dill** * *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Aljets, Paul *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:13 AM *To:* 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" Now now, Not all of us can run XA 6.5 with 2008 R2.. As we have apps that aren’t compatible J It’s still better then XA 4.5 J --paul *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *James Rankin *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:02 AM *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" That's becauser they're knowledgeable enough not to use the Vista of XenApp :-0 On 20 March 2013 17:57, Aljets, Paul <PAljets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Two replies from the most knowledgeable guys I know and you’ve never seen this issue before? J Paul Aljets Sr Citrix Architect *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Joe Shonk *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:55 AM *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" Yeah, understandable. Most places don't run Windows 2008. Those organizations that did go Windows 2008 have since migrated to Windows 2008 R2 w/ XenApp 6.5. Hint, Hint, Wink Wink. Joe On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Webster <webster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: DOH, completely missed that part where you are running 2008. Sorry about that. Webster *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Aljets, Paul *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:26 PM *To:* 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" This issue is occurring on a Xenapp Presentation Server Running.. Running XA 5.0 (Platinum Edition) The latest released Rollup pack for Win2008 For Xenapp 5.0 is Rolloup 01 Unless I’m missing something completely J I see a Rollup 07 for Xenapp 4.5 but we’re not running that.. Paul Aljets Sr Citrix Architect *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Webster *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:05 AM *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" Why are you just on R01 when R07 has been out for a good while? Or did you mean XA 6.5 Platinum on 2008 R2? Webster *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Aljets, Paul *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:41 AM *To:* 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' *Subject:* [THIN] Urgent Issue -- "Please Wait for Local Session Manager" Let me preface this with the following information Environment: XA 5 Platinum Rollup 01 applied (and a couple post R01 Printing related Hotfixes) Citrix Profile Management 4 (Although all users are logging in anonymously on the servers this is impacting) Presentation Servers running: Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Edition x64bit Occurs on both Physical and Virtual machines Only occurring in “One” of our 2 Datacenters MS KB2661001 already applied and issue still occurring. When launching a Published app or attempting to RDP against an affected server the user receives the message “Please Wait for Local Session Manager” and it will just sit there. Sometimes eventually logging the user in ~15 minutes later but more frequently it just sits forever The only “Fix” is to either reboot the server, or forcefully terminate IMA and restart. It should be noted I had a memory dump sent to MS for analysis what they came back with is the following: The analysis from the MS Debugging team shows that LSM (Local session manager) is blocked on a chain of blocked threads that leads up to Citrix’s ImaSrv service. In this process there request processing threads are blocked on a lock that is owned by another thread within ImaSrv and this lock owning thread has been waiting from past ~4 minutes to receive acknowledgement of a RPC bind packet that it has sent to mydomaincontroller.domain.com over TCP transport at port 49156. The client will wait for a timeout period of ~15 minutes. As such I don’t see if this request is blocked in the local network stack, but appears that the DC has not been responding. IMASrv has issued DsCrackNames on "MYDOMAIN\UserID1234" to convert the directory service object names from one format to another. However what we are interested here is to understand why RPC bind didn’t complete. Forcefully terminating IMA and restarting it, “Fixes” the error for the time being. But if ANYONE has seen this issue before and has any suggestions I would welcome them. I have a case open with Citrix, and they’re analyzing the memory dump as well, but I thought I would ask the brain trust to see if they had any suggestions. J This is a new one on me. Any assistance is welcome! Paul Aljets Sr Citrix Admin Stanford Hospitals and Clinics -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk