This is an interesting one, if you disable the balloon driver, won't the guest VMs' then be hoarding free memory they don't need? I guess it's a case of which situation do you think is least worst? Russell From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: 15 September 2008 23:08 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: UPHClean Simple, the memory optimization (balloon driver) works by allocating kernel mode memory. For a x32 bit Terminal Server, this can be devastating to scalability as there are limits. This is one of the reason you hear of shops only getting 10-20 users per vm. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Wasgatt Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:54 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: UPHClean Let us know what they say. I understand why the shared folders should be not allowed - they broke something. But I'm not sure why the memory optimization (ballon) drivers should not be used. I haven't seen anything to explain why not just a caution not to use them. From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Medeiros Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 1:18 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: UPHClean Thank you, Joe and Eric. I am checking with my VMware guys to see if that is the case. Jim On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Did you install the VM tools? When you did, did you remove the "Shared Folders"? If not, then do so... Also remove the memory optimization (balloon driver) while you're at it. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Medeiros Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:17 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: UPHClean I forgot to mention that it seems to be working fine on our other 40 Physical PS servers. Jim On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Jim Medeiros <jmedpc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: For some reason, the UPHClean program, although running as an active service, is not working on any of our Virtual Servers. We are running Win2k3 SP2, PS 4.0. UPHClean is version 1.6d. Has anyone else seen an issue with this running on Virtual Servers? Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------- Check out these great links: Tactical Profit - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l3 Republic Magazine - http://oftherepublic.com Justice, Peace and Freedom Conference - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l0 Constitution Class - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l1 How to prosper in Hard Times - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l2 -- Check out these great links: Tactical Profit - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l3 Republic Magazine - http://oftherepublic.com Justice, Peace and Freedom Conference - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l0 Constitution Class - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l1 How to prosper in Hard Times - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l2 -- Check out these great links: Tactical Profit - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l3 Republic Magazine - http://oftherepublic.com Justice, Peace and Freedom Conference - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l0 Constitution Class - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l1 How to prosper in Hard Times - http://www.iscribers.com/members/go.php?r=97&i=l2