Yes. Tracert uses ICMP with varying TTL (time to live) to obtain paths from each device as the TTL expire. There are alternative trace utilities that use other protocols (TTL works at IP level) - but you should already be blocking that from the outside anyway. tim Timothy R. Mangan Founder TMurgent Technologies tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.tmurgent.com +1 781-492-0403 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:55 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Tracert Stupid question but when you want to prevent anyone pinging you boxes from the outside world, you block ICMP packets. Does tracert also use ICMP packets or something else? In other words, if you block ICMP, you block the ability for others to ping you, does this also block a tracert? ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - RTOSoft TScale Complaints about applications response time - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! TScale 2.0 improves applications response time and increases terminal server capacity. Really get MORE from your existing servers! Free eval: http://www.rtosoft.com/enter.asp?id=130 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - RTOSoft TScale Complaints about applications response time - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! TScale 2.0 improves applications response time and increases terminal server capacity. Really get MORE from your existing servers! Free eval: http://www.rtosoft.com/enter.asp?id=130 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm