[THIN] Re: Thin Print Vs Provision Vs Universal Vs Windows 2008

  • From: James Scanlon <scanjam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Thin <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:36:48 +1000

Rick I appreciate the time you have taken to help me out!

Thanks very much!!

 

We are going to get thinprint in, (free of charge) and if they cant get us a 
better working solution with the current infrastructure and something that will 
work for the next 3-5 years we will look to move..

 

Cheers 
 


Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:51:14 +1000
Subject: [THIN] Re: Thin Print Vs Provision Vs Universal Vs Windows 2008
From: ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxx
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Hi Jim,
 
My apologies. I got carried away and didn't even answer your questions 
properly. Got hung up on ThinPrint......
 
Now for your questions:
 
1. If the upgrade is cgoing to cost you a lot of cash I'd think of maybe not 
doing it.
2. Absolutely :-)
3. XPS isn't too bad but you don't start getting real value out of it as a 
generic printing solution until you've got XPS compatible network printers etc. 
It's still only a partial solution and you'll end up with non-XPS and XPS 
printing in your environment unless you get a real UPD solution. 
4. I love Konica MFP devices. Their postscript drivers would have to be the 
most inefficient drivers on the market and you can be absolutely certain to 
sell a UPD solution to someone with Konica MFP's on their WAN. A good UPD 
should allow you to select the advanced printing properties at the client end. 
Most of them do that.
5. An active/passive cluster aware UPD solution is nice, but once you get way 
from using non-UPD drivers on Citrix the printing stability just goes through 
the roof so the only thing you've got to worry about most times is hardware 
failure on the print server. Making it a multi vCPU virtual machine isn't a bad 
way to go for that number of users. 
 
regards,
 
Rick
 
-- 
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

 
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM, James Scanlon <scanjam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




Greetings List Legends!

 
If anyone of you list citrix / thin legends have any suggestions, thoughts, 
ideas, I need to advise on the next best step forward for "printing" for our 
thin environment. 
 
I have found ThinPrint to be exceptionally inflexible and expensive though I am 
uncertain of the alternatives. Really this product was purchased to get the 
drivers off the Citrix servers  (but lumping all the drivers onto 1 thinprint 
server seems just as stupid to me)



Do we keep Thin Print and Upgrade to a better version (current 7.0.619.5)

Do we look to another product (provision networks or something else)

Do we look to upgrade to Windows Server 2008 and use some of the newer printing 
features with no other 3rd party software? (XPSDrv or whatever it is)

We have a number of Konica MFD Devices to be 'migrated' which may or may not 
support universal printing (due to the extra features, stapling, trays etc) Do 
we force the rule of "Universal Driver Only"? and what do we do for the 
printers that don't work? native drivers?

What do we do about redundancy for print services for citrix users



We will be using a brand new XenApp 5 Farm
All this has come up because we are looking to migrate 150 Printers and around 
5000 users and I want to make sure we have the best solution in place for 
printing moving forward for the next 2-3 years min...
 
My thanks and regards to anyone who takes the time to reply, and apologies for 
the long email!
Best Wishes
 
James


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