Obviously there are two opposing viewpoints here. The fact is that MS has given me at least a different answer than what you're saying Joe. Right or wrong, it came from them. -Paul > ---------- > From: Joe Shonk[SMTP:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:10 PM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > Correct, for a W2k or XP Pro workstation... But not a W95 machine. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frey, James [mailto:jfrey@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:07 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > > But they are free to use. The server issues a free license. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:27 PM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > See: = > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/tsfaq.asp > Win2k and XP do not have built in TS Cals. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:07 AM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > > Put aside "rights" and look at it this way: > > Win2K Pro machines have a built in TS CAL > > Win95 does not. > > Win95 connects to your TS server, it wants a CAL. > > Since you purchased Win2K Pro licenses, which have a built in CAL, are = > you > entitled to MS giving you CAL licenses to use Win95 machines? I'd say = > call > MS Licensing and ask. They will be the only people who can tell you the > answer and provide the license. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee, David (CITY TREASURY) [mailto:David.Lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:05 AM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > > Ouch! So although we have effectively purchased a TS CAL for each PC as > part of the Win2k Pro license, because we have exercised the downgrade = > right > to install Windows 95, we can't use it? =20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blackman, John [mailto:John.Blackman@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 04 October 2002 15:44 > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > > Yeah I agree, the way I understood it you have to be explicitly running = > W2K > Pro in order to use the "built in" TS CAL license. > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jensen, Jay [mailto:jjensen@xxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: 04 October 2002 15:38 > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS > > > You don't. If you are connecting with a Windows 95 workstation to a = > Win2K > Server running Citrix / Terminal servers you will need a TS CAL and = > Win2k > license for each connection. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee, David (CITY TREASURY) [mailto:David.Lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:20 AM > To: Thin client listserve (E-mail) > Subject: [THIN] Terminal Services CALS > > > > Apologies for another licensing question! We are about to start an > expansion of our XPe server farm, and I'm having some fun sorting out MS > Terminal Services CALS for the client machines......=20 > > We have about 200 fairly recent spec Dell PCs, which were supplied with > Windows 2000 Professional licences, but for various reasons, currently = > have > to run a downgrade installation of Windows 95 (yeuk!). Now, the Win2K > licence for each PC includes a TS CAL, but as the PCs run Win95, how do = > I > convince the licensing server that all is legit? =20 > > Cheers > > David Lee > > > Network Engineer > City Treasury > Plymouth City Council > Civic Centre > PL1 2AA > > Tel: (01752) - 307844 > > > > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > ********************************************** > This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com > 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical > server-based questions, issues and incidents. > http://www.99point9.com > *********************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************** This weeks sponsor 99Point9.com 99Point9 helps solve your unresolved technical server-based questions, issues and incidents. http://www.99point9.com *********************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm