[THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal Services?
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- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:57:50 -0700
Yes. To rip-off a commercial from years ago, "When Jim K speaks, people
listen".
adam
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If Jim told you to jump off a cliff would you do it? J
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Just because Jim said so...I'm going out to listen!
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:42 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?
If you want to take it a step further listen to the Adence podcast Brian
has over on his site.
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=677
This is a cool acquisition by Citrix. So instead of using profiles etc.
down to a machine, you have a networked ISO of a desktop and the
profiles are pulled in as you download the needed portions of the ISO to
run the OS and released when you log out. You can have literally hundreds
of users using the same ISO file! This is a must listen!
Jim
On 3/9/07, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is a great example and an excellent question.
If you are using session sharing these apps actually use the same profile
so you won't have a contention. However, let's assume they don't. If
profiles were database/logic drive you could record all of these changes
and apply rules. Let's say you have Outlook, Word and an accounting
application. Outlook closes first, but you change a rule setting. That
change is written to the database. Then Word closes and wants to write some
new preference settings, these are written to the database. Then the
accounting app closes and wants to write a change to the view you created.
The database would have all of these changes and you could apply them as
you like. So, let's say you allow users to customize Outlook and Word but
not the accounting app, the rule would say apply the Outlook and Word
settings, but not the accounting app settings. Then the order would not
matter!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:16 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
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So how does that work exactly (DB driven profile)? What I find to be
problematic is that you'll have users open up three different published
apps. Each app is opening a session so if there are any profile related
changes being made, (printer added for example), than the last one out is
the saved profile. Any profile related changes in the first two sessions
closed out are lost. How does the DB profile rectify?
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:04 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?
Well, hate to restate the obvious, but profiles are the "legacy app" of TS
environments. Someone mentioned a database driven profile and I have to
agree that this is the way to go. Tricerat does it with their Simplify
Suite and it makes perfect sense and is very effective. Flex profiles is a
great tool, but something more integrated would be better.
While we would like to see Citrix provide something, really it is an MS
issue and MS ought to step up and make it happen. I guess though they would
probably charge for it, or at least make you buy SQL licenses to use it!!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:34 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
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Ahahaha, boy I love Joe and his bluntness. However, I'm inclined to agree.
The whole profile thing though....good luck with that one.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Brian Madden'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?
Also, beg, pled whatever you have to do to keep Longhorn from looking and
acting like Vista. The last thing I need is a dumbed down flashy server OS
with all of the options I'm used to rearranged and difficult to find.
Things like UAC should not be enable by default, only if the system
administrator finds it necessary to annoy their users.
Also, how about better vendor support at launch (or better compatibility
with App)? I had spent several hours rebuilding VMs using Virtual PC
because VMware Workstation 5.5.3 doesn't run on Vista.
Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:16 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal Services?
Hi All,
I will be off to Redmond and the Microsoft MVP Summit next week. Brian
Madden has posted a synopsis and Microsoft wants to know what new features
should be added to Terminal Services in Future releases.
Please respond to the thread at
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=680 with your ideas.
(PS I will be on a mission to meet Bill and get a pic with him, wish me
luck)
Thanks,
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Jim Kenzig
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
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Jim Kenzig
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