[THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal Services?

  • From: "Beckett, William \(Bill\)" <bill.beckett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:06:39 -0500

Well he is an MVP ;)

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:47 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?



If Jim told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?  :-)

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Beckett, William (Bill)
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:12 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

 

Just because Jim said so...I'm going out to listen!

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:42 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

If you want to take it a step further listen to the Adence podcast Brian
has over on his site.

http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=677 

This is a cool acquisition by Citrix. So instead of using profiles etc.
down to a machine, you have a networked ISO of a desktop and the
profiles are pulled in as you download the needed portions of the ISO to
run the OS and released when you log out. You can have literally
hundreds of users using the same ISO file!  This is a must listen! 

Jim



On 3/9/07, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

This is a great example and an excellent question. 

 

If you are using session sharing these apps actually use the same
profile so you won't have a contention. However, let's assume they
don't. If profiles were database/logic drive you could record all of
these changes and apply rules. Let's say you have Outlook, Word and an
accounting application. Outlook closes first, but you change a rule
setting. That change is written to the database. Then Word closes and
wants to write some new preference settings, these are written to the
database. Then the accounting app closes and wants to write a change to
the view you created. The database would have all of these changes and
you could apply them as you like. So, let's say you allow users to
customize Outlook and Word but not the accounting app, the rule would
say apply the Outlook and Word settings, but not the accounting app
settings. Then the order would not matter!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262 

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net 

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Beckett, William
(Bill)
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:16 AM 


To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

 

So how does that work exactly (DB driven profile)? What I find to be
problematic is that you'll have users open up three different published
apps. Each app is opening a session so if there are any profile related
changes being made, (printer added for example), than the last one out
is the saved profile. Any profile related changes in the first two
sessions closed out are lost. How does the DB profile rectify?

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:04 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

Well, hate to restate the obvious, but profiles are the "legacy app" of
TS environments. Someone mentioned a database driven profile and I have
to agree that this is the way to go. Tricerat does it with their
Simplify Suite and it makes perfect sense and is very effective. Flex
profiles is a great tool, but something more integrated would be better.

 

While we would like to see Citrix provide something, really it is an MS
issue and MS ought to step up and make it happen. I guess though they
would probably charge for it, or at least make you buy SQL licenses to
use it!!!

 

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262 

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net 

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Beckett, William
(Bill)
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:34 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

 

Ahahaha, boy I love Joe and his bluntness. However, I'm inclined to
agree.

 

 

The whole profile thing though....good luck with that one. 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Brian Madden'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

Also,  beg, pled whatever you have to do to keep Longhorn from looking
and acting like Vista.  The last thing I need is a dumbed down flashy
server OS with all of the options I'm used to rearranged and difficult
to find.  Things like UAC should not be enable by default,  only if the
system administrator finds it necessary to annoy their users.

 

Also, how about better vendor support at launch (or better compatibility
with App)?    I had spent several hours rebuilding VMs using Virtual PC
because VMware Workstation 5.5.3 doesn't run on Vista.

 

Joe

 

 

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
ThinHelp.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:16 AM
To: THIN; Brian Madden
Subject: [THIN] Tell us What New features do you want in Terminal
Services?

 

Hi All,

I will be off to Redmond and the Microsoft MVP Summit next week. Brian
Madden has posted a synopsis and Microsoft wants to know what new
features should be added to Terminal Services in Future releases.   

 

Please respond to the thread at
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=680 with your ideas. 

 

(PS I will be on a mission to meet Bill and get a pic with him, wish me
luck)

 

Thanks,

-- 
Jim Kenzig 
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
http://www.thinhelp.com
Citrix Technology Professional
Provision Networks VIP
CEO The Kenzig Group 
http://www.kenzig.com
Blog: http://www.techblink.com 




-- 
Jim Kenzig 
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
http://www.thinhelp.com
Citrix Technology Professional
Provision Networks VIP 
CEO The Kenzig Group
http://www.kenzig.com
Blog: http://www.techblink.com 

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