Hi Ron, You'll be dealing with terminal services regardless. The only thing Tarantella will save you is per user licensing costs, hardware requirements will stay the same. If using something like threadmaster, Armtech, etc doesn't help the scalability, then it'd be worth your while to try and find out what the application does. Sysinternals filemon, regmon and ethereal for network traffic tracing will get you pretty close to understanding what the app is doing. As an example, one of my customers had an absolutely awful Java application that settled down brilliantly once we unpacked it's Java archive and cached it locally. Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems Ltd 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia. Ph: +61 7 3246 7704 email: rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: www.volante.com.au -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Jameson Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 1:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Tarantella anyone? Well - my plight against the accounting program that after 8-10 users on a win2k3 server will peg the CPU is almost in the dirt. I have the CPU throttle going to slap it down but I just cannot get a whole lot of users when they run this program. I am not alone as I find others using Creative Solutions Accounting in the accountant field has similar problems. Tech support answer? - logout/in again. Grrr...Not good enough. Having them fix their code it next to impossible....an accounting firm with the same problem experimented and went back to Win2000 TS with better results. Hmmmm.... So I sit here at the table looking for solutions. Throwing 2 more CPU's at a cost of $5k will not cut it for I don't think it will still be able to handle it. At $7k, I can get a PE2650 by dell and start down the road of LB and start growing the farm. Now - my question to the thin community....does anyone have luck with Tarantella and how it compares to Citrix? I am waiting for costs on Tarantella but I also think Citrix is overkill for 50 users just to get published apps and load balancing (i.e. designate which user or app goes to what server). I am not even at accounting season so this is only going to get worse. Thanks for the input. Ron Jameson Hamlin Technologies ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client's mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ##################################################################################### This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this email and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. ##################################################################################### ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online Thinssentials Utilities Using the latest software, hardware, networking technologies, proven technical expertise, proprietary software and best practices, EOL provides custom-tailored solutions for each client?s mission and specific goals. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm