the newest flash is the best yet but we still have problems. I refuse = to pay for Rapport. It should be included. We do use Remote Admin to = flash (and try it first) but we have found it is only a short term fix. = It will start happening again after a day or two. Flashing them via = laptop seems to do a better job. Either the problem goes away or it at = least stays gone for a month or two. If we get a unit back three times = in three months, we replace it with a Neoware. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Matt McKeehan [mailto:matt.mckeehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS Why won't you use remote admin or rapport to manage your WYSE thin = Client, it would be much less of a headace than flashing via a laptop. We had = this problem and we upgraded firmware and it went away.... Matt Mckeehan Citrix LAN Supervisor Admin Office of The PA Courts PA Supreme Court (717)795-2063 (717)514-9446 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Tim Mangan [mailto:tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:01 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS That certainly sounds like a different problem than power. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:54 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS it is the same behavior at all four locations I support. Those =3D = locations are spread around the state. I even had one at my house for a =3D while = that did it. We've thought about power problems but we are in =3D health = care and none of the other electronics have any trouble. None of =3D the other = brands of terminals have ever had trouble either. Just the =3D Wyse terminals. Generally it starts out with a user typing along working during the day = =3D and the unit just blinks off. The next day or two it does it again, =3D = then it starts happening twice a day, then every couple hours. It gets =3D = worse and worse until they finally call up here in a rage of frustration =3D demanding new systems. This is all over the course of a month or a few = =3D weeks. We keep spares at each location for just such an issue and then = =3D their bad unit makes its way here. We use a laplink cable to force a = =3D re-flash of the ROM image and then the unit is fine. Re-flashing with = =3D the software tools will sometimes do the trick but usually not. Doing =3D it via a cable directly always works. Sometimes we never get a unit = =3D back after that, sometimes we see it a month later for the same thing. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Tim Mangan [mailto:tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:36 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS Have you ever looked into the building power? I was at a company one = =3D time that had a bad transformer on a pole out back. Computer monitors kept = =3D going bad all the time until we figured out the power wasn't clean. = Once the transformer was replaced, problems went away - although slowly = because damage had been done. tim -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:30 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS it's the strangest thing with Wyse. Either people have nothing but = =3D3D problems with them (like me) or they never have problems with them. It's = =3D =3D3D all or nothing. Out of 120 units, I still have at least 2 a week = turn =3D =3D3D up dead. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Matt McKeehan [mailto:matt.mckeehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:48 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS We have about 2700 wyse 3320's in the field. They work fine. We are currenting evaluating the 3125's. They run just fine. Now Rapport is a whole other issue........ Matt Mckeehan Citrix LAN Supervisor Admin Office of The PA Courts PA Supreme Court (717)795-2063 (717)514-9446 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Stage, Paul [mailto:p.stage@xxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:36 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS We are using Wyse WT3360SE terminals and have not had any major issues = =3D =3D3D with them. When we first implemented them they were frequently getting = =3D3D cleared. Apparently if you hold the g key down while powering them on it clears =3D =3D3D the config. Working like a charm now. :) Thanks, Paul T. Stage MCP, A+ Information Services La Porte Hospital Tel. (219) 326-1234 x7126 or (800) 235-6205 Fax (219) 325-6416 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Kenzig [mailto:jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TERMINALS Links for all the different manufacturers are half way down the page at http://thethin.net/links.cfm You might want to look at the ChipPc OpTC if all you need is ICA http://www.chippc.com/ Regards, Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott Musser Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:35 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] TERMINALS Does anyone have any experience with Terminals other than Wyse? We've = =3D =3D3D had a high rate of failure of the Wyse units (various models in the 3000 = =3D3D series). I just ordered a 3125 to evaluate, but I'm more interested in trying =3D3D another manufacturer. We strictly use ICA, so we don't = need alot of other emulations or built-in browsers etc. Any recommendations would = be appreciated. -- N. Scott Musser MCP, MCSA, MCSE Network Administrator IDenticard Systems, Inc. scottm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your = =3D3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the number =3D =3D3D of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the = number of servers =3D =3D3D you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, = Wyse Expedian software =3D3D allows the terminal server to support more applications and more =3D3D concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free = trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNew= sl=3D et=3D3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your = =3D3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the number =3D =3D3D of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the = number of servers =3D =3D3D you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, = Wyse Expedian software =3D3D allows the terminal server to support more applications and more =3D3D concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free = trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNew= sl=3D et=3D3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your = =3D3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the number =3D =3D3D of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the = number of servers =3D =3D3D you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, = Wyse Expedian software =3D3D allows the terminal server to support more applications and more =3D3D concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free = trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNew= sl=3D et=3D3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your = =3D3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the = =3D =3D3D number of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the = number of =3D =3D3D servers you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, Wyse = Expedian =3D =3D3D software allows the terminal server to support more = applications and =3D3D more concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNew= sl=3D et=3D3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D =3D3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= =3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your =3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the number =3D of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the number = of servers =3D you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, Wyse = Expedian software =3D allows the terminal server to support more applications and = more =3D concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNewsl= et=3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= =3D ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your =3D server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the = =3D number of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the number of = =3D servers you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, Wyse Expedian = =3D software allows the terminal server to support more applications and =3D = more concurrentusers. Download your 30-day free trial today at: http://www.wyse.com/expedian/eval.cfm?promo=3D3DUS-Ad-0103TheThinNetNewsl= et=3D terEM *************************************************************************= =3D *** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *************************************************************************= ** This Week's Sponsor: New Wyse(R) Expedian(TM)software maximizes your = server capacity--cost-effectively. Now you can dramatically increase the number = of users on a server by as much as 40%--and reduce the number of servers = you have to manage. By optimizing memory usage, Wyse Expedian software = allows the terminal server to support more applications and more = concurrentusers. 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