[THIN] Re: System Back-up solution.
- From: "Doug Rooney" <Doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:52:29 -0700
Jim,
I can see your points, but one thing is, we do not remove our USB
drives, we have multiple sets in multiple buildings and they do not
move.
My biggest hurdle with tapes is sixty bucks a pop minimum and the boss
says "no way". Now if someone had a written reason that made clear sense
in upper managerial terms why tapes make good business sense, that I
could drop on his desk...
Thank You
~Doug Rooney
Sonoma Tilemakers
IT Manager
7750 Bell Rd.
Windsor Ca, 95492
it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:32 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: System Back-up solution.
Answers inline preceded by jak
Jim Kenzig
Please excuse any typos.
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On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:14 PM, "Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data
Corp." <bcoffman@inf
>
> > On 6/7/2010 1:33 PM, Jim Kenzig wrote:
> > I think that is a bad idea.
>
> Why?
> Jak: hardware is just as fallible as tapes, even more so if it is
> being removed in and out of a system and bounced around in travel
> >In the end you still need tapes.
>
> For what?
Jak: see above
>
> I disagree with Jim. If your dataset allows for it and you maintain
> multiple copies and OFFSITE storage as we do with tapes, I think USB
> drives make a lot of sense.
> Jak: USB hard disks are not reliable. Remove them incorrectly just
> once and bye bye data
> One thing to consider (this works well in virtualized environs) is
> custom boot CDs that throw system images out to an NFS or SMB mount
> - perhaps the USB drive itself) and use other backup software to do
> fulls/incrementals.
Jak: as someone who has been backing up systems going on 30 years now
I can only say that for the foreseeable tapes will remain the gold
standard. A dedupe system for interim backup to disk makes sense for
short term restore, from the dedupe you can backup from it at any time
reserving your servers resources. Tapes are more portable and allow
flexibility to have more increments available. Just how many hard
disks are you going to carry around? We back up several terabyte of
data per month.
In disaster recovery the chance you will be able to get the same model
servers/controllers is usually pretty slim. You will be left with a
huge mess.
I wouldn't trust my job and my companies reputation/well being against
USB drives dependability
Jim
>
> The key, as will all backups, is managing your media, testing
> restores, and discipline in checking logs.
>
> - Bob Coffman
>
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