George Kaplan is the name of the fake agent in North by Northwest?? -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil Sent: 02 July 2004 10:25 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue Ah token ring - the communism of the networking world ;-) Takes me back... ;-) Have you seen the film "Hudson Hawk"? I loved Coburn's character's comments on communism ;-) Bonus points for the trivia question - why was his character named "George Kaplan"? (Well it is Friday, after all...) As to your question - I'm not sure I fully understand what you are asking? Are you asking why do they still include them? If so, I'd say the original design goals for NT included this architecture as part of the OS. So over time, people / customers may have made use of them, and they've become expectations. Plus it's laudable from a "aren't we making great efforts on cross-platform functionality" type thing. Like Microsoft having their own NetWare client - a nice claim, but perhaps a subtle encouragement away, or perhaps an omen of the future. I'd guess that they've had things in the NT OS onwards for so long, that to suddenly pull the rug, in any one particular release may be unpopular, with a minority, but vocal demograph. I think Tim mentioned that the OS/2 subsystem was no longer present in 2003 server, though. Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian > Sent: 02 July 2004 10:16 > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue > > funnily enough, thats more or less the line I have followed > myself! bits of S36/38, AS/400, EJ9000 MVS SNA - 3745 FEPS, > 3725's, 4173 controllers CUT DFT....ahhhh those were the > days...yawn, OS/2.. all on token ring..of course... and with > a smattering of SCO UNIX and AIX thrown in..and I'm still > none the wiser! hahaha, only kidding..ish > > You may be able to answser the following question... assuming > that the OS/2 subsystem and Posix subsystem is still enabled > in wind2k by default.... why? if you need backward compat for > posix and os/2, then it should be turned on..surely?? maybe > licensing reasons or somesuch. > > bless IBM... they are still trying - > http://www-306.ibm.com/software/os/warp/strategy/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil > Sent: 02 July 2004 09:58 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue > > > <terminator voice> I have detailed files... </terminator voice> > > Acksherly, in a lock-up just outside Peckham ;-) > > I kinda do cross-platform stuff - 'specially with things like > directories, like AD. And I started off working with > mainframes, then Unix platforms, so making things like > Windows, AD and other platforms interact is something I do. > > In this particular example, it's something that I actually > looked at, when making Apple Macs authenticate to, and use > Active Directory (and Windows file share resources). > > Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian > > Sent: 02 July 2004 09:50 > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue > > > > goodness gracious me Neil, where on earth do you store this stuff? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Braebaum, Neil > > Sent: 02 July 2004 09:33 > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue > > > > Primary group is a legacy carry over for posix compliance. > > > > Don't worry about it unless you do cross-platform stuff. > > > > Neil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On Behalf Of dmauri@xxxxxx > > > Sent: 02 July 2004 08:06 > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Strange Issue > > > > > > In the AD the user administrator has Domain Users as a > primary group > > > instead of Domain Admins. 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