[THIN] Re: Session Down State

  • From: Pat Coughlin <strangedog@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:02:08 -0500

I run them all in a CMD file at server build or as needed.  The patches
will not  cause any harm if already installed or superseded.  Use your
distribution tool of choice or run them manually.

Pat Coughlin
CCIA MCSE
On Nov 14, 2012 4:57 AM, "Hamilton, Ronnie" <ronnie.hamilton@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Pat,****
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> One question on the stability patches do you apply in any particular order
> ?****
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> Just wondering do I always need to apply the session down fix last ?****
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> Regards,****
>
> Ronnie****
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Pat Coughlin
> *Sent:* 14 November 2012 04:43
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Session Down State****
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> That is a different  problem.  10000 is aa differentload evaluator
> tripping.  Some of the patches post sp2 seem to fix down session issues.
> Test for yourself,  but i sleep  better when my boxes are fully patched
> both with the security fixes and the specials from my list.****
>
> Pat Coughlin
> CCIA MCSE. ..****
>
> On Nov 13, 2012 11:37 PM, "Angela Smith" <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi Pat
>
> Can you confirm your server load goes to 10000 when this occurs.  I have
> an issue where session is in a down state and load=10000
>
> Just want to reconfirm before applying these hotfixes.  Like you the
> down state issue occurred after patching..
>
> Thanks
> Ang
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> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:56:47 -0500
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Session Down State
> From: strangedog@xxxxxxxxx
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Per MS, the issue indeed extends to both listeners, ICA and RDP.  There
> has not been a security hotfix for Termsrv.dll for years.  A couple of
> supporting components got hotfixed in March, but termsrv.dll was left out.
>  Either of the two articles below fix the issue.  I use the newer one
> (977629) as it has tested without issue and might keep me out of hot water
> down the road.****
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> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977629 ****
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> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958476 ****
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> Here is the Citrix writeup: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX133141***
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> Here is Microsoft's writeup: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2653956****
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> This is good info to keep on file for anyone dealing with Citrix/Terminal
> Services on 2003.****
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> Patrick Coughlin****
>
> CCIA, MCSE....****
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> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:****
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> Alan, ****
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> Makes sense to me. ****
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> I only ever experienced the issue in a full TS environment (well XenApp
> actually). But it could happen either to RDP or ICA connections. Rarely
> both at the same time – so you could be limping along with RDP broken and
> ICA fine, or vice versa. In the event log there would be an error message
> along the lines of an RDP (or ICA) component (a .dll) was
> missing/corrupt/illegal – so the service was unavailable. There was a
> suggestion in other KB articles that AV was modifying  the file in some way
> and it should be excluded. This was not the case. ****
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> I found the only way to fix the problem was to rebuild up until I came
> across the patch.****
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> hth ****
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Hutchinson, Alan
> *Sent:* 13 November 2012 12:10****
>
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> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Session Down State****
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> Does this apply to any server (Windows 2003)? i.e. terminal services as
> opposed to a pure terminal server. We're occasionally seeing a down RDP-Tcp
> listener after a reboot but not just on terminal servers. Curiously those
> that are terminal servers usually have the ICA-Tcp listener up !!. Seems to
> happen more on our VMs (VMware) but last week I had it on a physical box.
> It's not 100% clear from the KB below.****
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> Let me know if any of that didn't make any sense.****
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> Regards,****
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> Alan.****
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Andrew Wood
> *Sent:* 12 November 2012 17:15
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Session Down State****
>
> ..was just typing **this will be it** .. then I see Ronnie has already
> replied.****
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Raffensberger, Stephen D
> *Sent:* 07 November 2012 13:14
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Session Down State****
>
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> Ronnie,****
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> Try this…http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958476****
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> *Steve Raffensberger*****
>
> Produban US****
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> sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxx****
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Hamilton, Ronnie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:36 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Session Down State****
>
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> Hi,****
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> Just been patching my Windows 203 Servers with the last 3 months windows
> patches, I was my doubts  but have now proved that when I put these patches
> on every time I reboot I get a session down.****
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> I have just finished rebuilding a couple of servers and have one still to
> do. ****
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> So I tried patching another one and same problem, has anyone identified
> the patch or had similar issues lately.****
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> This there were 30 patches in all, going to have to try and identify which
> one.****
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> Thanks****
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> Ronnie ****
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> *Ronnie Hamilton*
> Senior Network Engineer ****
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