From some testing CAD software on Citrix is OK, but does tend to be CPU & Memory hungry because of the nature of the drawing complexity. Depending on the expected usage level of the CAD software I would lean towards the Dual CPU option and maybe even a bit more RAM just to be on the safe side. As for the speech software - no really sure. Hope it helps Mike -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rink, Jesse Sent: 14 January 2003 17:43 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations I agree with the questions about the speech software and CAD software. = Does anyone have experience running CAD software via Citrix? What about = software with speech? Jesse Rink -----Original Message----- From: george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:40 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations To clarify: a single dual processor server should be fine -----Original Message----- From: george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:35 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations I agree, a single servers/b fine, but one thing that worries me is how = heavy duty is the CAD application and what about the speech application ? -----Original Message----- From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:58 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations We run a farm of Dual P3/800 machines with 2GB RAM each, running a = fairly intensive patient admin app. Each server handles up to 40 users = concurrently and we've yet to meet a performance problem. Your servers should be = fine. I'd still go for a pair if I were you, for redundancy. Even a single = server should manage what you want although IE isn't the most thin-client = friendly app. -----Original Message----- From: Rink, Jesse [mailto:JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 14 January 2003 16:48 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Server recommendations Looking for some feedback here. I worked a lot with load balanced farms = and NFuse in the past with Winframe and Metaframe 1.8, but I haven't used Citrix/TS in about 2 years so I'm kinda rusty. XP wasn't even available when I was managing my Citrix servers so I'm clueless when it comes to = XP. That being said, be nice to me, haha. =20 I'm currently considering updating one of our computer labs (in the high school) which has older PII machines. The original thought was to buy = brand new PCs but I'm starting to reconsider and thinking about going Citrix = (or maybe just terminal services) and re-using the old PCs. The older PII machines should be enough to work as thin clients. The PCs are mainly = used to surf the internet (IE), Office XP (mainly Word, Publisher, Power = Point), a speech program, and a CAD program. =20 =20 I was tentatively looking at using Citrix XP with load balancing for the lab. (2) IBM x345 servers with dual 2GHz processors, 1GB memory, and a single 36GB drive. I've always been under the theory that when you use Citrix load balancing, it's more cost effective to NOT stock your = servers with redundant power supplies, redundant drives, redundant NICs, etc. = since the redundancy is taken care of via load balancing instead of at the = server level. This keeps my cost of hardware cheaper, which saves me money to afford the load balancing piece for Citrix or software assurance, etc. =20 My question is whether or not the proposed server setup listed above = would be adequate for this lab. All 30 PCs would be used at the same time, so = I could POSSIBLY have 30 users using internet explorer at the same time so = I need my servers capable of handling this load. I was originally = thinking having (2) IBM x345 servers with a single processor, but I'm leaning = towards dual processors. I'm looking for feedback from people on whether my = server config would be adequate or whether I need more servers/hardware.=20 =20 If memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't, I thought a dual processor PIII Xeon processor server with a lot of memory could easily handle 25 users. If that's true, then my configuration with two servers would be overkill. =20 =20 Thoughts? Thanks. =20 Jesse Rink *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: WM Software WMS Messenger for TSE Affordable Instant Messaging for Terminal Servers http://www.wmsoftware.com/wmsm/ ************************************************ For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: WM Software WMS Messenger for TSE Affordable Instant Messaging for Terminal Servers http://www.wmsoftware.com/wmsm/ ************************************************ For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm