[THIN] Re: Server recommendations

  • From: "Mike Batters" <mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:51:57 -0000

From some testing CAD software on Citrix is OK, but does tend to be CPU &
Memory hungry because of the nature of the drawing complexity.

Depending on the expected usage level of the CAD software I would lean
towards the Dual CPU option and maybe even a bit more RAM just to be on the
safe side.

As for the speech software - no really sure.

Hope it helps

Mike
 -----Original Message-----
From:   thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
Behalf Of Rink, Jesse
Sent:   14 January 2003 17:43
To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:        [THIN] Re: Server recommendations


I agree with the questions about the speech software and CAD software.  =
Does anyone have experience running CAD software via Citrix?  What about =
software with speech?

Jesse Rink


-----Original Message-----
From: george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations

To clarify:

a single dual processor server should be fine

-----Original Message-----
From: george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.wasgatt@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:35 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations


I agree, a single servers/b fine, but one thing that worries me is how =
heavy
duty is the CAD application and what about the speech application ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:58 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations



We run a farm of Dual P3/800 machines with 2GB RAM each, running a =
fairly
intensive patient admin app. Each server handles up to 40 users =
concurrently
and we've yet to meet a performance problem. Your servers should be =
fine.
I'd still go for a pair if I were you, for redundancy. Even a single =
server
should manage what you want although IE isn't the most thin-client =
friendly
app.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rink, Jesse [mailto:JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 January 2003 16:48
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Server recommendations


Looking for some feedback here.  I worked a lot with load balanced farms =
and
NFuse in the past with Winframe and Metaframe 1.8, but I haven't used
Citrix/TS in about 2 years so I'm kinda rusty.  XP wasn't even available
when I was managing my Citrix servers so I'm clueless when it comes to =
XP.
That being said, be nice to me, haha.
=20
I'm currently considering updating one of our computer labs (in the high
school) which has older PII machines.  The original thought was to buy =
brand
new PCs but I'm starting to reconsider and thinking about going Citrix =
(or
maybe just terminal services) and re-using the old PCs.  The older PII
machines should be enough to work as thin clients.  The PCs are mainly =
used
to surf the internet (IE), Office XP (mainly Word, Publisher, Power =
Point),
a speech program, and a CAD program. =20
=20
I was tentatively looking at using Citrix XP with load balancing for the
lab.  (2) IBM x345 servers with dual 2GHz processors, 1GB memory, and a
single 36GB drive.  I've always been under the theory that when you use
Citrix load balancing, it's more cost effective to NOT stock your =
servers
with redundant power supplies, redundant drives, redundant NICs, etc. =
since
the redundancy is taken care of via load balancing instead of at the =
server
level.  This keeps my cost of hardware cheaper, which saves me money to
afford the load balancing piece for Citrix or software assurance, etc.
=20
My question is whether or not the proposed server setup listed above =
would
be adequate for this lab.  All 30 PCs would be used at the same time, so =
I
could POSSIBLY have 30 users using internet explorer at the same time so =
I
need my servers capable of handling this load.   I was originally =
thinking
having (2) IBM x345 servers with a single processor, but I'm leaning =
towards
dual processors.  I'm looking for feedback from people on whether my =
server
config would be adequate or whether I need more servers/hardware.=20
=20
If memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't, I thought a dual
processor PIII Xeon processor server with a lot of memory could easily
handle 25 users.  If that's true, then my configuration with two servers
would be overkill.  =20
=20
Thoughts?  Thanks.
=20
Jesse Rink
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