I'll try to get him, he was a customer's rep from last year. Let me give them a shout. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:42 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again Will your rep get it in writing ? Its driving me bonkers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again > > Interesting since I have had the MS rep here tell me the EXACT=20 > OPPOSITE. > > I mean does a Citrix user USE the SQL data store? No. Even through he=20 > connects to a citrix server he never access the DB or even uses the=20 > SQL driver or uses it through another "tier of hardware" as they put=20 > it. The server uses a SQL or Windows account (there is your user) to=20 > access the DB.=3D20 > > > > Ron Oglesby > Senior Technical Architect > =3D20 > RapidApp > Office 312.372.7188 > Mobile 312.961.2380 > email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx > =3D20 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:31 PM > To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] SQL datastore licensing ... again > > > In my quest to get an answer to the licensing of the SQL datastore i=20 > got an official answer from Microsoft UK. > > "RE :Your query regaring Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing and Citrix=20 > DataStore > > Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx, > > Thank you for your call regarding Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing.=20 > =3D20 Further to our discussion I can advise that the following = websites > offer information on licensing models available to customers and gives > a guideline on which model to choose depending on Business=20 > requirements. =3D20 > For a oneliner in your customers scenario the following extract from the > last link below should clarify the situation for you: > =3D20 > "Regardless of how many tiers of hardware or software exist between the > SQL Server and the client devices that ultimately use its data, > services, or functionality, a CAL is required for each distinct input to > the multiplexing, pooling, or related software or the hardware front > end. Processor licensing will likely be the appropriate licensing option > in these situations, due to its simplicity and affordability." > =3D20 > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=3D3D/TechNet/pr= o d=3D > t > echnol/sql/reskit/sql2000/part2/c0461.asp>h > ttp://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp > > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp> > =3D20 > For a definitive answer in relation to licensing, as is true for all=20 > Microsoft products, SQL Server use is defined in the End-User=20 > Licensing Agreement (EULA) that accompanies all editions of SQL Server > 2000 (or any previous version).=3D20 =3D20 > The following is another extract from the webiste below that may be > helpful to you: > =3D20 > "Additionally, there is specific language that attempts to clarify the > use of applications that are installed between the end user and the SQL > Server: "'Multiplexing.' Hardware or software that reduces the number of > Devices directly accessing or using the Server Software does not reduce > the number of required CALs. The number you need is based on the number > of distinct inputs to the hardware or software 'front end.'" " > =3D20 > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexmktbulletin.asp> > =3D20 > I trust that this clarifies the situation for you. If we can be of any > further assistance please contact us on 0870 60 10 100 Monday to Friday > 8am - 6pm, e-mail us or visit www.microsoft.com/uk > http://www.microsoft.com/uk> for all your information and support > needs.> > =3D20 > Kind regards,"" > > Anyone care to comment ? do that have a different answer from=20 > Microsoft at all ? > > They defined the Citrix Datastore as multipexing it appears.=3D20 > > Surely someone from MS on the list could get official clarification ? > > regards > > ********************************************************* > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:=20 > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > ********************************************************* > This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint > Simply the best print solution for Citrix > Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link:=20 > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - ThinPrint Simply the best print solution for Citrix Metaframe and Microsoft Terminal Services! http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm