[THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:42:44 -0600

I'll try to get him, he was a customer's rep from last year. Let me give
them a shout.

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
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RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:42 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again



Will your rep get it in writing ?
Its driving me bonkers!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again


>
> Interesting since I have had the MS rep here tell me the EXACT=20
> OPPOSITE.
>
> I mean does a Citrix user USE the SQL data store? No. Even through he=20
> connects to a citrix server he never access the DB or even uses the=20
> SQL driver or uses it through another "tier of hardware"  as they put=20
> it. The server uses a SQL or Windows account (there is your user) to=20
> access the DB.=3D20
>
>
>
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
> =3D20
> RapidApp
> Office 312.372.7188
> Mobile 312.961.2380
> email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> =3D20
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:31 PM
> To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] SQL datastore licensing ... again
>
>
> In my quest to get an answer to the licensing of the SQL datastore i=20
> got an official answer from Microsoft UK.
>
> "RE :Your query regaring Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing and Citrix=20
> DataStore
>
> Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx,
>
> Thank you for your call regarding Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing.=20
> =3D20 Further to our discussion I can advise that the following =
websites

> offer information on licensing models available to customers and gives

> a guideline on which model to choose depending on Business=20
> requirements. =3D20
> For a oneliner in your customers scenario the following extract from
the
> last link below should clarify the situation for you:
> =3D20
>  "Regardless of how many tiers of hardware or software exist between
the
> SQL Server and the client devices that ultimately use its data,
> services, or functionality, a CAL is required for each distinct input
to
> the multiplexing, pooling, or related software or the hardware front
> end. Processor licensing will likely be the appropriate licensing
option
> in these situations, due to its simplicity and affordability."
> =3D20
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=3D3D/TechNet/pr=
o
d=3D
> t
> echnol/sql/reskit/sql2000/part2/c0461.asp>h
> ttp://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp>
>  =3D20
>  For a definitive answer in relation to licensing, as is true for all=20
> Microsoft products, SQL Server use is defined in the End-User=20
> Licensing Agreement (EULA) that accompanies all editions of SQL Server

> 2000 (or any previous version).=3D20 =3D20
> The following is another extract from the webiste below that may be
> helpful to you:
> =3D20
> "Additionally, there is specific language that attempts to clarify the
> use of applications that are installed between the end user and the
SQL
> Server: "'Multiplexing.' Hardware or software that reduces the number
of
> Devices directly accessing or using the Server Software does not
reduce
> the number of required CALs. The number you need is based on the
number
> of distinct inputs to the hardware or software 'front end.'" "
> =3D20
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexmktbulletin.asp>
> =3D20
> I trust that this clarifies the situation for you. If we can be of any
> further assistance please contact us on 0870 60 10 100 Monday to
Friday
> 8am - 6pm, e-mail us or visit www.microsoft.com/uk
> http://www.microsoft.com/uk> for all your information and support
> needs.>
>   =3D20
> Kind regards,""
>
> Anyone care to comment ? do that have a different answer from=20
> Microsoft at all ?
>
> They defined the Citrix Datastore as multipexing it appears.=3D20
>
> Surely someone from MS on the list could get official clarification ?
>
> regards
>
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