[THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again

  • From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:42:10 -0000

Will your rep get it in writing ?
Its driving me bonkers!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: SQL datastore licensing ... again


>
> Interesting since I have had the MS rep here tell me the EXACT OPPOSITE.
>
> I mean does a Citrix user USE the SQL data store? No. Even through he
> connects to a citrix server he never access the DB or even uses the SQL
> driver or uses it through another "tier of hardware"  as they put it.
> The server uses a SQL or Windows account (there is your user) to access
> the DB.=20
>
>
>
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:31 PM
> To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] SQL datastore licensing ... again
>
>
> In my quest to get an answer to the licensing of the SQL datastore i got
> an official answer from Microsoft UK.
>
> "RE :Your query regaring Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing and Citrix
> DataStore
>
> Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx,
>
> Thank you for your call regarding Microsoft(r) SQL Server licensing.
> =20
> Further to our discussion I can advise that the following websites offer
> information on licensing models available to customers and gives a
> guideline on which model to choose depending on Business requirements.
> =20
> For a oneliner in your customers scenario the following extract from the
> last link below should clarify the situation for you:
> =20
>  "Regardless of how many tiers of hardware or software exist between the
> SQL Server and the client devices that ultimately use its data,
> services, or functionality, a CAL is required for each distinct input to
> the multiplexing, pooling, or related software or the hardware front
> end. Processor licensing will likely be the appropriate licensing option
> in these situations, due to its simplicity and affordability."
> =20
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=3D/TechNet/prod=
> t
> echnol/sql/reskit/sql2000/part2/c0461.asp>h
> ttp://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexing.asp>
>  =20
>  For a definitive answer in relation to licensing, as is true for all
> Microsoft products, SQL Server use is defined in the End-User Licensing
> Agreement (EULA) that accompanies all editions of SQL Server 2000 (or
> any previous version).=20
> =20
> The following is another extract from the webiste below that may be
> helpful to you:
> =20
> "Additionally, there is specific language that attempts to clarify the
> use of applications that are installed between the end user and the SQL
> Server: "'Multiplexing.' Hardware or software that reduces the number of
> Devices directly accessing or using the Server Software does not reduce
> the number of required CALs. The number you need is based on the number
> of distinct inputs to the hardware or software 'front end.'" "
> =20
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/multiplexmktbulletin.asp>
> =20
> I trust that this clarifies the situation for you. If we can be of any
> further assistance please contact us on 0870 60 10 100 Monday to Friday
> 8am - 6pm, e-mail us or visit www.microsoft.com/uk
> http://www.microsoft.com/uk> for all your information and support
> needs.>
>   =20
> Kind regards,""
>
> Anyone care to comment ? do that have a different answer from Microsoft
> at all ?
>
> They defined the Citrix Datastore as multipexing it appears.=20
>
> Surely someone from MS on the list could get official clarification ?
>
> regards
>
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