[THIN] Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Scalability of VMWare workstation 5 on PS

  • From: "Michel Roth" <mrdizzz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 09:15:10 +0100

If you really want to strip Windows bare, read this fabulous article from
Mark Russinovich:
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/07/running-windows-with-no-services.html

On 3/2/06, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Great suggestions- thanks!
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> (602) 432-8649
> www.thinclient.net
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Daniel Sidler
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:43 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Scalability of VMWare workstation 5 on
> PS
>
> Reminds me of this:
> <http://techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/downloads/home/windows_xp_services_tha
> t_can_be_disabled.pdf>
>
> Dan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Mangan
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:36 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Scalability of VMWare
> > workstation 5 on PS
> >
> > Of course stripping everything possible from the Guest XP
> > host will help considerably.  It is likely that there are
> > lots of services and drivers you can take out since all they
> > do is log on to run that one app.  If the app will run on an
> > older OS that will help - even an unpatched XP without any
> > service packs would be smaller.
> >
> > tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:38 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: SPAM-LOW: [THIN] Re: Scalability of VMWare
> > workstation 5 on PS
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Thanks for answering the question and avoiding questioning
> > the question!
> >
> > Yes, we have tried everything possible with this app
> > including AIE, virtual IP/Loopback, Softricity, etc. It is a
> > very low overhead application that is basically run once,
> > logs into a call center processing system to re-direct the
> > phone line and then just sits there while the agent works.
> > Disk access, RAM, CPU, etc are negligible. The only real
> > impact will be the base RAM is takes to run the VM itself. It
> > is currently running on MS Virtual PC on Citrix at this site.
> > Moving to ESX is the leading option, but it adds a layer of
> > cost and complexity which is not ideal for this client's
> > environment. ESX with Virtual Center and V Motion would add
> > 30K to the project and we are exploring using those same
> > hardware boxes to simply add more app servers to the farm and
> > publish M workstation instead.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Greenberg
> > Thin Client Computing
> > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > (602) 432-8649
> > www.thinclient.net
> > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Mangan
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:40 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SPAM-LOW: Scalability of VMWare
> > workstation 5 on PS
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I run workstation, as well as GSX and MS Virtual Server in a
> > lab environment all the time.  In your (customer) situation
> > running a few virtual servers that will be desktop OS's will
> > be OK - assuming the host has sufficient Memory.  I typically
> > keep 8-10 virtual OSs up on any given box with "reasonable"
> > performance.  If the app itself does a lot of disk access
> > then disk speed becomes important, but it really is a memory
> > thing that is most limiting.
> >
> > Not optimal, but you said you didn't want to get into that,
> > and I know that you clearly are familiar with application
> > virtualization which would be the more obvious alternative choice.
> >
> > tim
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:56 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: SPAM-LOW: [THIN] Scalability of VMWare workstation 5 on PS
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any scaling feedback on running VMWare
> > workstation 5 on PS as a published app serving up XP
> > desktops? # of sessions per server, etc.
> > would be helpful
> >
> > Please don't respond to debate the merits, this is for a
> > customer project in which a single app will be run from these
> > XP instances and it must be done this way!!!!
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Steve Greenberg
> > Thin Client Computing
> > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > (602) 432-8649
> > www.thinclient.net
> > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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