[THIN] Re: [SPAM] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
- From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:26:30 -0400
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Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
Citrix Technology Professional
DABCC, Inc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:54 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SPAM] [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
ofVirtualization
you should try Peggle. Talk about addictive.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Me? I have friends that love the p0rn and love the video games. I
hate video games.... I did get in to Wolfenstein (the newest one) a
couple years ago and lost months to it. I mean, months of time wasted
playing that damn game. It is the ultimate brain sucker... So, I
learn from others... ;)
On 6/6/08 3:37 PM, "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
how do y'all get so much work done and know so much about pr0n
and games?
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jim, I agree with disagree. I think the "gaming" world
has brought computers farther than the "P-O-R-N" world. We don't need
super video cards, support CPUs and all that memory for P-O-R-N. It is
for video games... IMHO
On 6/6/08 3:22 PM, "Jim Kenzig" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <
http://jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Lol.
Well you know it is because of P-O-R-N that the
computer industry has evolved like it did. Chatting, Video, Pictures,
virtual worlds, games, all would not be where they are now had it not
been for it and it IS documented. Think about it Things like virtual
girl existed long before second life. The only thing video was used for
was that, the most images I can remember being out there even when there
were just BBS's were you got it.
Jim
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Greenberg
<steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Dana Carvey said to Mark and Wes during
his stand up routine, "So what is this XEN Desktop thing? I get my
desktop, now what the hell do I do? Ok (imitating a Nerd), type
P-O-R-N!!!"
Think about the Citrix message a "new
desktop computer every time you boot up"... think about who needs that
exactly??
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:50 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks
Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
And? What is it?
On 6/6/08 2:48 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <
http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Oh crap, I just realized what the real
killer app is for VDI......
Dana Carvey nailed it at SYNERGY,
seemed like a joke but I think it is right on the money !
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
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mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Brown
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks
Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
I agree but only if they don't burry it
in XenApp Plat or XenDesktop Plat. It needs to be a separate product
for people who might not want to use either XenApp or XenDesktop....
On 6/6/08 9:58 AM, "Joe Shonk" <
joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx <http://joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> <
http://joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Why also discuss PVS and if it should be
part of XenApp Platinum ( I'm willing to give up Edgesight and Password
Manager in exchange) and should Citrix fix their products or spend their
money adding new features.
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mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:52 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks
Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
Speaking of Joe this is one of my
favorite picturess I took from Synergy This is during Dougs Geek Speak
session and is a picture of the front row.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#52032010390
49314546
From left to right Joe is the one
Hovering standing next to Brad Stephens, who is Next to Mark Templeton
who is next to Shawn Bass (who had just finished his VDI talk) Barry
Flanagan, Jeroen Van De Kamp and Brian Madden are in there also. Now
use the right arrow and click over 2 pictures and see how fast Brian
catches Marks ear. Click 2 more to the right and there is Grumpy Doug.
And here is one of Steve, Joe and Doug picking apart VDI at the CTP
dinner
http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#52032011764
88268290
Jim
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Steve
Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <
http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
This is a long standing debate between
Joe and I . To me VDI, and most hypervisor virtualizations for that
matter, are just not efficient enough. For applications that require
remoting and certain kinds of processing I am sure there is a good
match, i.e. stock traders, CAD engineers working at a distance, etc.
The case we are pondering more and more
is where remoting is needed but the requirements to get the application
set working in TS are highly complicated. These may not be highly
specialized apps, but apps that just don't play well in TS. We have made
some incredibly difficult apps work together on TS, but in the end you
have a very complicated system that is hard to upgrade and change. So
for certain organizations that have the skills to manage a PC but not a
complex TS environment, VDI starts to become attractive.
One of our Bri-Forum sessions is called
"Y-VDI" in which we will outline all the use cases we can think of that
support VDI.
My main issues with VDI are lack of
efficiency, i.e. a really big ass server might support 15-20 users, that
completely sucks!!
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