[THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
- From: "Steve Parr" <SParr@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:31:13 -0500
Just doing a mini-price-comparison and an IBM rep I was put in touch
with just said he feels in about 6 months they'll not be selling SCSI
anymore either. Sounds like we have for sure 2 of the main vendors
saying hello to SAS and goodbye to SCSI. Just a rumour from some reps
but there is probably some kind of writing on the wall here.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Hill, Brian (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:51 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
Who said anything about IBM? They suck too as far as I'm concerned.
Brian
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Roger Riggins
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:29 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
There goes the chatter again. Dell will sell you the exact same server
as IBM for half the price. What were you saying about markup? Why don't
you ask your IBM rep about their "Get The Dell Out" promotion? Funny how
they can magically cut their quote in half to match a Dell quote.
Why start these threads? It's like saying Chevy is better than Ford.
As for the serial bottle-neck, why don't you call the developers and
manufacturers and let them know that you think serial means bottleneck
so they can halt production? I can't believe those idiots didn't consult
you first.
Roger Riggins
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Doug Rooney
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:15 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
Too much chatter???
The first 'S' stands for 'Serial', sounds like a bottle-neck to me.
Obviously the vendors are pushing what gets them the best mark-up, not
what is best for us the admin's nor for the users.
Dell makes that *very* clear.
Thank You
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Roger Riggins
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:08 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
Blah blah blah.
SAS is the new SCSI and all of the vendors sell it.
Roger Riggins
Network Administrator
Lutheran Services in Iowa
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Hill, Brian (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA\SAS and SCSI
Just because Dell is willing to stake confidence in it doesn't mean I
would. On the contrary, it would probably make me think otherwise. I
really dislike having to work with Dell servers, especially when
compared to the Proliant series. If it was adopted for the Proliant
series, then it would get my attention. Knowing Dell, they are probably
adopting it because they got an inexpensive buy-in and are backing it as
a cost-cutting measure, not because it is better technology. I could be
wrong because I haven't kept up with emerging hardware in a while. One
thing I do know....Dell servers are weak sauce.
Brian
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Parr
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:50 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] SATA\SAS and SCSI
There was a bit of a debate going a few weeks ago re: SATA\SAS vs. SCSI
that was pretty interesting. I may be incorrect but our Dell rep just
told us that though they will support SCSI still they will stop selling
SCSI in a couple of months. Have other people heard the same thing?
What they are pushing on server end is not SATA but SAS which they
explain as actually being SCSI drives with enhanced technology such as
the multiple bus for each hard drive vs. SCSI drives all going thru same
bus. All in all if the entire Dell business is willing to stake so much
confidence in the new technology musn't it be for a good reason? Up to
now I was a stickler for SCSI but this is starting to make me think...
Steve Parr
Systems Analyst, IT
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